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Ahhh! I lost my valve timing!!! 850

Howdy fellow Bricksters!
While fixing my 96 850 GLT with a blown head gasket, I took the head to be milled, slapped it back on the block, and realized my makeshift cam holders did an absolutely horrible job of keeping my cams lined up... I know, I goofed. So I did mark the cam, and the timing belt cover (the upper plastic ones with the timing marks)but I always thought that it was a horrible way to keep timing, which is where the makeshift cam holders came into play. So my question to you is, how to I find my timing? The marks I made don't look too accurate as that plastic piece can move around, and I was wondering if there was a "secret" way of lining them up again.
Thanks in advance,
Blake








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    Ahhh! I lost my valve timing!!! 850

    Did you put the upper camshaft cover back yet? If not, and you still have the crankshaft at no. 1 top dead center, you can check both that you have the timing ok and that you don't have the cams interchanged. First, the marks at the rear end of each camshaft will be horizontal and parallel. One is below the other - if memory serves the exhaust is below centerline and the intake is above (but check that point). You can make a new tool if yours wasn't good enough. If not in the right place you can always rotate them back a little. The valves for #1 cyl (timing belt end) should both be closed, and if you imagine the crankshaft rotating, the cams should be poised for the exhaust valves on #1 to open soon (around 70 deg or so of camshaft rotation). The intake valves would not open for #1 until something like 230 deg of camshaft rotation (clockwise if I remember correctly). Imagine the sequence of valve openings that would be needed, given the firing order and if it all makes sense then your cams are probably approximately right.

    To get the sprockets set, first see if there are marks from where they were tightened down before. If not, just center them in the slots, then put the upper cover on. Then put the timing belt on without the tensioner yet and with the sprocket bolts not quite snugged down. Keep the camshaft slots flat and the crankshaft fixed then approximate the position of the sprockets to the timing marks on the plastic cover, while pulling on the belt to tension it by hand in the same way the actual tensioner will do. Be sure the plastic cover is tightened down all the way for this purpose. I think this will work as long as the belt is really engaged in the crankshaft sprocket teeth and the forward edge of the timing belt is tight like it will be once it is in use. I tried a couple of times then it all just seemed to fall into place.

    By the way I got the top cover to stay down and keep the camshafts in place by using 4 c-clamps, while tightening the bolts.








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    Ahhh! I lost my valve timing!!! 850

    So long as you followed the directions to put the cams back on the head, you are in good shape. The dumb plastic with its 2 marks have always baffled me, but they do work, even if it is not perfect. If you move the plastic to one side or the other does not matter, the cams will still line up correctly.

    Without the holder, it is just a little more difficult to get the proper tension on the belt between the cams, but as can be attested by those who did this before you, it can be done. Just check the cam timing marks after you pull the pin on the tensioner. Then, always spin the crank 720 degrees by hand with the plugs removed so you can feel for any blockages.

    When you start the engine for the first time, let it run a couple of minutes before shutdown to get the oil moving.

    Klaus
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    Always willing to listen, just not able to take direction.







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