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She's dying, please help!! 850 1993

I have a 1993 850 which, until recently, was running great. In December she starting to lose power and flash the check engine light when I went over large bumps in the road. The car would also stall when I was attempting to parallel park or sometimes when I drove slowly up a ramp into a parking garage (low RPM, heavy load type of situation.) Eventually, I went over a bump and the check engine light came on and stayed on. I took the car to the dealer and they replaced the engine speed sensor. This seemed to solve the problem for about one week. Then the intermittent stuttering power loss and check engine light started happeneing again. After another week, the car would not start one morning. I got it started by holding down the gas and attempting to start it multiple times. As I was driving down the highway attempting to burn out the carbon (a problem I was told is common in these cars, especially with the city driving I do) the check engine light came on and stayed on again. I took it back to the dealer and this time he replaced the throttle position sensor. The car was fine for the drive home, but the next morning I felt the same old skipping power loss with the flashing of the check engine light. This past weekend I replaced the wires, plugs, and distributer cap and rotor. She ran great that afternoon. This morning she refused to start again. She would crank and almost start but when I released the key it immediately stopped. I got it started on the sixth or seventh attempt. When I tried to drive her down the road, the car would stall. This was a new problem as she never stalled before. I could get her started but the idle was rough and as soon as I tried to accelerate the car stalls. Please help me!! I think it's a fuel problem but I'm getting desperate. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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    Re: She's dying, please help!! 850 1993

    Hey Ben,

    Doesn't sound entirely like the same problem, but within the last 6 months I had a very similar problem that might be worth trying. Intermittently while driving down the highway my 93 850 would automatically 'kill' or completely cut fuel from going into the engine. None of its symptoms were common with each instance and I pulled my hair out replacing 600 dollars worth of parts on multiple visits to more than one Volvo authorized mechanic before going to the service department and replacing one of the two fuel relays in the parking lot. 6 minutes and 57 dollars later she's never did it again.(I replaced the one found abutting the fire wall in a simalar compartment to the fuse box.) What is so amazing about this story to me...first that of all of the volvo mechanics I took it to all had heard of similar 850 problems but none had solved them. Second that something that was effectively a simple and common fuel problem was never properly diagnosed or even mentioned and lastly that I was crazy enough to buy parts like a crankshaft sensor in the belief that it might help me out.

    I hope that this helps if not you then someone having a similar 850 issue. Good luck in your mystery problem.

    Brian F.

    Newburyport, MA








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    Re: She's dying, please help!! 850 1993

    I'd guess that you have a wiring harness problem (wire rubbed through and intermittantly shorting out) and that it's being misdiagnosed.

    There's two known troublesome wiring harness places that should be very closely examined, one is where the engine harness curves around the trans dipstick and the other (although I doubt it'd cause your problem) is where the dash harness crosses over the steering column (instrument cluster removed).

    I've seen an early 850 (like yours) where a wire in the engine harness was intermittantly shorting on a sharp edge at the trans dipstick tube area and it too gave the ECU engine crank, cam sensor codes. That's where I'd suggest that someone looks very carefully (unravel conduit).









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      Re: She's dying, please help!! 850 1993

      This sounds like a problem I had with my Cougar a few months ago. Although I am not saying this is it but it's just a suggestion. Do the 850's have an idle air control? That's what caused the problem in my vehicle and as soon as it was replaced the problem was solved. Just a thought.

      Carlos







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