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larger intercooler 850 1994

Has anyone had any luck at finding a more efficient larger intercooler. If only custom where did you get it and how much.








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    Re: larger intercooler 850 1994

    Would a larger intercooler increase turbo lag as the turbo has to

    "fill" it before the intake comes up to pressure?








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      Re: larger intercooler 850 1994

      Depends on design.

      If you look at the stock intercooler, it has a very efficient surface area to volume ratio. But it is also very flat, which causes quite a bit of restriction.

      If you go with one of the many high performance models available, they have a larger volume which would suggest more lag. However, because they aren't as flat, they flow much faster.

      It also depends on what else you are running. I'm sure everyone already knows that a higher flowing exhaust will greatly help with turbo lag. Just as a chip upgrade will. And many don't stop there. What about the turbo? I know tonnnes of guys running mitsu turbochargers that are extreme to say the least. It all depends on set-up and application.

      If you are talking pure performance, you'll want something like a modified Mitsu 20G. This puppy is easily good for 800hp. Strengthen the engine, the tranny, a triple plate clutch and other extensive modifications, i.e. drive train, engine internals, frame bracing, etc, and at 4000rpm, this turbocharger will put you through the back of your seat. Everything below and it'll feel like a typical Honda/Acura with little more then 100ft/lbs. But if it's a racing/drag application, who cares. Drop the clutch at 4000rpm and you'll never feel lag. You may only have about 3000 usable rpm, but that 3000 will fulfil all your racing/drag requirements.

      If you are talking streetability, it won't help much to go with an aftermarket intercooler. Not much gains will be found unless a lot of other work has been done. You'd need to be pushing around 17psi to get noticeable gains. And by 17psi, you'd be in the low to mid 300hp range. And with that much power, you'd be in dire need for other modifications such as those already mentioned.








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        Re: larger intercooler 850 1994

        I already have some exstensive mods done. However before I boost max boost I would like to find a larger intercooler to cool the charged air. Where can i get one. Sin what city in canada are you from.








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          Re: larger intercooler 850 1994

          I live in Toronto.

          I have already made schematics for what modifications it would take to fit a front mount intercooler (with a larger capacity than the stock) into the car. These are some of the things I learned.

          You should be able to find many universal intercoolers that will work fine with the 850. You do know that you will probably have to remove your AC, make a custom mount for the radiator, literally cut off some support material for the hood, and cut away some of the bumper don't you? And when I say bumper, I don't just mean the plastic cover, I mean the actual steel bumper with a torch cutter. I have seen one or two guys get away with not removing some of this stuff, but those that did, actually put in smaller intercoolers than stock, or ran the intercooler so low to the ground, they had to modify their front spoilers like my plan did, locating the intercooler VERY close to the ground (read thread regarding skid plate to understand just how ridiculous this is). Just take a look at how close the stock intercooler is to the support for the hood. You've barely got inches, and the stock intercooler is pretty flat. Flatter then any aftermarket intercooler I've ever seen. Now you know why it's so flat.

          When you open your hood and look at where the stock location of the horns are, you will notice that there is a piece that runs vertically right through the centre of the opening. It appears to be plastic, but is metal behind the plastic. This is part of the support for the hood. So you may have to find other ways to secure the hood adequately. Yes you still have the two latches at either side, but you now have no support in the middle of the hood, just at either side.

          Then there's the reduced structurally integrity.

          I'm not going to lecture anymore about how this really isn't a good idea for a street going car, so I'll give you the info you are probably interested in.

          I've seen spearco intercoolers in the 850. This required some removal of steel bumper, and LOTS of removal of plastic bumper cover.

          If you are in the Toronto and surrounding area, there are a number of shops that could probably do this for about $2000 Canadian. I worked on a set-up for a custom intercooler with a guy named Marco at his shop called Magnus Motorsports. It came out to about $1500 Canadian. Put it this way, this custom intercooler is even bigger then Spearco's and GReddy's!!! It's mounted so low, that I would actually have one of their guys rebuild my R front spoiler to make the central duct larger. I would also cut away the plastic cover until the gray upper part of the bumper.

          So there you go. Spearco, GReddy are easily available through the mail direct. And there are shops that will make custom intercoolers if you have the dough. And that means about $2000 Canadian. If you are interested, I'll give Marco a ring and see what kind of developments have been made in the last year regarding intercoolers and what kind of downtime and money you are looking at.








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    Re: larger intercooler 850 1994

    Installed, with taxes and all applicable things included, you are looking at about $1500 Canadian.







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