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Inner and outer tie rods. Should have replaced them sooner 850 1995

posted by  Erwin on  Tue May 21 09:33 CST 2013
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In the last couple of months I've replaced the control arms, struts, spring seats strut bearings, bump stops, etc, on my '95 855T. The sway bar end links were replaced last year with IPD HD units.

While I had all of this apart I checked for play in the tie rods by wiggling the hubs back and forth and they seemed ok. No discernible play. Last week I started hearing and feeling a POP in the left front when turning the steering wheel one full turn to the right and there has been some creaking on the right side backing out of the driveway in the morning. Pulling the left wheel didn't show anything loose or worn but driving to work today as soon as I hit 45mph the front end starts shuddering back and forth.

Don't have time this week to deal with it so it's going to the local indy shop for possible tie rod ends and an alignment. $360.

Anything else it could be given what has been replaced already? As far as I know, these parts are OEM and the car has 197,000 miles on it. I bought it with about 60,000, just after the trans had been replaced.

Thanks,

Erwin








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    Inner and outer tie rods. Should have replaced them sooner 850 1995

    posted by  jwalker on  Thu May 23 07:15 CST 2013
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    The creaking may be a worn out lower engine mount. Have you replaced it yet? My 95 creaks too and I know I need a lower mount.

    It could also be a bad strut mount. My 240 also creaked but only when turning slowly on uneven pavement. That car's problem was a strut mount. Doubt that is your problem as it is my understanding that the strut mounts on 850's normally don't wear out...








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    Inner and outer tie rods. Should have replaced them sooner 850 1995

    posted by  B.B. on  Thu May 23 04:52 CST 2013
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    Hi Irwin,

    I redid the front end and changed out the left front ball joint/control arm
    with a cheap FCP chinese part. The ball joint failed in short order and the
    obvious reason was that the chinese supplied an ordinary threaded bolt (soft)
    instead of a hardened machined taper pin to lock the ball joint into the steering knuckle. A short term cure is to turn the bolt slightly to take the slop out of
    the joint, but it will quickly mash the soft threads and become useless.
    I worked with the FCP tech guy, Mike, about this and sent him photos of the junk
    locking bolt, and he gave me credit for the old arm and sent a Meyle control arm,
    NOT Chinese, but made in Turkey. Since then my original credit for some $36
    disappeared, and nobody knows a thing. Just this week I e-mailed Scott,
    my former FCP hero and Go-To guy and now CEO about my credit, and haven't heard
    a peep. Maybe I should e-mail the Emperor at FCP to get anywhere?

    It hard for me to understand any business model that includes making and selling
    useless products.

    It's been two alignments here with very low mileage on the front end and suddenly I'm getting shimmy when braking on the highway. I'll be looking for the culprit soon. Hopefully it's not the Meyle ball joint.

    After thinking about the goofy soft bolt used for locking the ball joint,
    I asked why do they do that? The first reason might be stupidity,
    then it could be that they don't want to make a hardened machined
    pin that costs time and money. A third reason might be that they use that
    crappy common bolt, that will allow for sloppy machining tolerances of the ball
    joint locking surfaces. Hopefully the Chinese will make their military
    products in this slipshod manner, and the world can chuckle at their
    plywood aircraft carriers.

    The bottom line for me is to call Tasca for OEM ball joints, and hope that Volvo doesn't start supplying crummy FCP quality stuff from China.

    Have you noticed that Town Fair Tires offers a front end alignment with
    their tires? It might be worth a look at their fine print.

    I'll send photos of the jerk locking bolt on request. You can see how the
    soft bolt mashes out to allow slop at the ball joint.

    Good Luck, Bill








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      Inner and outer tie rods. Should have replaced them sooner 850 1995

      posted by  jwalker on  Thu May 23 07:28 CST 2013
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      The deal with Town Fair Tire is that if you buy at least 2 new tires they will do a front end alignment gratis. Or they will do a a 4 wheel alignment at at reduced price. I've bought many tires from them and have been a very satisfied customer for over a decade...:)

      Unfortunately for Erwin, Town Fair Tire is a New England chain, although they might now be expanding into metro NYC. Check their website.


      http://www.townfairtire.com/


      Jim







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