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engine cooling fan V70-XC70 2009

Hi all

Back to my cooling fan

As my fan kept running after engine off and no codes read on my reader, i begrudgingly took the car to the stealership where they were able to find a code and after further testing said the fan control module needs replacing

I replaced the module off a whole new fan unit and now the fan does not work at all

I have checked the fuses in the engine bay

Questions: does the computer have to be reset after such a repair

Does the air con fan come on when the air con turned on or only when the engine gets hot

Would there be a different module for other markets outside the US

Would the module be matched to the fans

I cant imagine there would be a reason for a difference re the last two questions

Any suggestions welcomed

Thanks David








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    Hi Chris

    From the module to the engine cooling fan was one plug and another to the ac fan. Both these underneath the module

    The main power harness consisting of two large cables and that little purple wire plugged into the top of the module

    Undo one phillips screw and the module lifts out

    Seriously only 5 min to change over

    I say again Volvo have a hide!!

    David



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      Sounds simple enough. Thanks, David.
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    So much to digest

    Thanks Klaus
    I feel sorry for the snow depth you have to deal with
    Here my jeans are sticking to my legs
    I dont know whats worse!!!
    I will do the test you suggest

    And thanks Chris
    I will follow the diagrams and see whats what

    BTW there is a slight difference in the part no of the module to the one i installed

    The module has two tongues which sit in pockets on the fan casing and is held in by one philips screw and the three power cables

    Disgusting that they make you buy the whole unit for such a small part
    And its not cheap
    $485 USD
    $1200 AUD

    Cheers



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      I hear you. I had a fan module go bad on my V70 and I had to buy the whole shootin' match. Now the fan motor on my wife's S80 is getting noisier every year, but I think I'll pick one or two up at the pick-n-pull and see if can put together at least one good assembly. Was it difficult to marry-up the module to the motor?

      Oh BTW, I had another thought. Since Klaus was nice enough to point out it's the ECM that controls the fan and not the CEM, I'm wondering if this is another case where re-seating the ECM in it's connector might improve communication. I had a case of chronic throttle module error codes on the S80 and it turned out to be the ECM connection, but then my car is older than yours (2005).

      Keep us posted as to what you find the problem to be.



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    Hi Klaus

    There is no temp gauge in this car
    Only a warning to stop and turn off the engine, which is too late when you are stuck in traffic
    I miss the temp gauge
    I drive by the tacho and temp gauges ( 122 and 1800 anyway )

    I had a thought
    I live in AUS where we operate with Celsius

    I purchased the Fan in the US where you operate with Fahrenheight

    So could this be my issue
    and
    can a dealer reset the computer to accept the US unit

    I would have thought the ac fan would have come on with the ac switched on

    How difficult is it to add a switch to turn the fans on manually
    In my mind though i feel its a lack of power to the fan module

    What do you think

    David



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      It is the ECU/ECM that sends power to the fan control module and tells it to turn on/off, with the purple wire. It is probably written in C rather than F inside the code of the ECU, the USA being the only country left that uses F. In any case, that will not have a bearing on your problem.

      If you have an infrared temperature gauge, heat up the engine and check the coolant temp. The engine fan should come on at 95-100C, which you can check at the top of the thermostat or even the large coolant hose.

      I forgot, it is getting warmer there - I just had to shovel 8" of snow off the driveway - so your AC should be warm enough to kick in and start blowing cold air. The engine fan should come on within a few minutes.
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      David,

      I'm not sure how much it will help but if you go to page 81 of the following wiring diagram, it shows how the fan system is wired. I wasn't able to access a 2009 specific diagram, but 2008 and 2010 are identical to each other for cooling fan wiring. So I surmised......

      http://www.volvowiringdiagrams.com/volvo/XC70%3AXC90%20Wiring%20Diagrams/TP39152201%202010%20V70%20XC70%20S80%20Wiring%20Diagram.pdf

      I don't know how deep you've gotten into it so far, so this may be old hat, but from the diagram we can draw some conclusions about how it all works:

      First off, note they DON'T show the module separate from the fan motor.

      Main power is supplied from the fuse box (15/31) via fuse 11A/43 and for some reason they are showing fuse 11A/44 which "appears" to be unrelated but you might want to check it anyway.

      The red/wht wire carries the power from the fuse box to the fan module. Be careful here as that wire should be hot at all times, even when the ignition is off, allowing the cooling fan to run after the car is shut off.

      Components 7/8 and 7/16 are the A/C refrigerant pressure sensor and coolant pressure sensor. They tell the CEM when either the refrigerant pressure is high enough or the coolant temp is high enough to require the fan to click on. If either of these two conditions are met, the CEM sends a signal down the violet wire to the fan module which triggers the fan on.

      (The coolant sensor's function is twofold as it also provides info for the gauge, which is probably why Klaus was asking if the gauge works properly. Whacky gauge possibly means a whacky sensor. But your car just has an idiot light.....)

      The blk/blu wire provides the ground. I see that, according to the diagram, on the 5 cylinder turbo cars the ground wire goes through some sort of junction point on it's way to earth. I wonder where that junction is and what it's condition is. Hmmm.....

      Maybe someone that knows better can say whether it's safe to short the wires at either sensor to see if it triggers the fan, and in the case of the coolant temp, does it trigger the idiot light on. It would also be nice to know what the expected resistance is across the coolant sensor at various operating temperatures. In the case of the A/C pressure sensor you could disconnect the wires and check for continuity through the sensor when the A/C is on. I don't know if simply turning the A/C on creates enough pressure to close the sensor, or if it only closes if the ambient temperature is high enough to get the refrigerant pressure up to a certain point. If the latter is the case, then it might just be that you aren't experiencing a condition, with either A/C pressure or coolant temp, that would call for fan on.

      I would be very surprised if it was a celsius vs fahrenheit issue. If that was the case, you would think there would be unique part numbers for each, as these things are supposed to be plug-n-play.

      OK, I'm starting to ramble on - just wanted to throw out some thoughts.



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    The cooling fan control module does not come off the fan assembly, so did you replace the entire assembly? Have you tried to clear the fan module by disconnecting the battery ground and touching the ground wire to the positive terminal for 5 seconds?

    It is not programmed to the car. The same setup is used in the S80 and S60.
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      Hi Klaus

      There is only 1 philips screw holding the fan module to the fan and the three power cables of course

      If the module is new, why would i have to clear it

      Can touching the earth to the positive cause issues with any other electrical system and what does the action do to the module

      Thanks for the education

      David



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        Grounding the positive cable removes any current stored in the various computers, grounding all of them by default. I didn't realize that this was a new unit, so it should have worked immediately.

        Is the temperature gauge on the dash working normally?

        To answer your question about the AC and fan, yes, the fan should turn on when the ac compressor is engaged. With cooler weather this time of year, who knows...



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