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Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

2005 S80 2.5T AWD. Battery under trunk floor.

I pulled the battery cable and closed the trunk. I now want to open the trunk to reconnect it, but I cannot get the trunk to open. There's a key option under the trunk lid -- but that isn't working either. My key goes in fine but it won't turn. I only have one key for the car.

Help appreciated!

Dan








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    Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

    I' surprized nobody recomended wit the key. get on the ground and look up there should be a round rubber plug abouit an inch in diometer. grab the tab and pull it out. theres a lock cylinder up there. slde your key in and turn it








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      Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

      Hi,

      I didn’t know that there was any kind of a external access mechanism on any cars, especially on the ones I have ever owned.
      I wonder what prompted that innovation? Maybe putting batteries into an automatically lockable trunk made it absolutely necessary?

      As far as accessing the circuitry of a car, I just remembered the other day, that the cigarette lighter’s element can be removed.
      This has been a favorite place for many accessories, let alone it can be used to put IN a charge.
      What I have seen, but not used, is a battery booster gadget to help start a car that has only a weak battery. I have no idea how long it takes to make a start happen?
      I see some of these “hand carry” jumper boxes with it’s own battery or a large capacitor (?) being sold in Costco. I assume they connect directly onto the batteries terminals.

      Some people carry these setups around in their trunks, which to me, seems illogical.
      Why carry another battery that you have to maintain instead of doing that to the main battery?
      Plus the end expense of having to replace its battery, at some ridiculously price, for a small package of power.
      I hate to mention our “chemical derived” 9 volts and AAA batteries.
      Money spent for energy there, in wattage or BTU’s, is far worse that whatever they can charge for gasoline and diesel. Compacted Convenience is very pricey.

      I also have noticed on some new cars that there is an optional, or standard item depending on models, to have a power outlet in the rear of SUVs. Probably for cooling units or air pumps?

      My newest vehicle is a 1993 so I’m not living under a rock, but only near the edges of one great big one?
      Our planet?
      (:-)

      Phil








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    RESOLVED! (Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery) S80 2005

    I wound up removing the driver's side rear seat bolster, then reaching around the backrest to find and pull the cable which actuates the fold-down backrest. I lowered the passenger side backrest in the same manner.

    With the seats down I crawled into the trunk and pulled the help-I've-been-kidnapped handle to open the trunk. Whew.

    My thanks to all for their good suggestions!


    Dan

    05 s80 2.5T AWD, 167k
    formerly 01 V70 T5, 96 855T









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      RESOLVED! (Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery) S80 2005

      Whew is correct!

      I didn’t know that the car had folding down rear seats and alike.

      I like the phrase “help-I've-been-kidnapped handle.” I laughed and smiled!

      You definitely had the Will power and found a way.

      You might want to find out if that is a Valet key only.
      Will it open anything else in the car that has an interior lock that’s never been locked either?
      (:-)

      Phil








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    Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

    Hi Dan,

    Maybe you have a valet key? Does your key lock/unlock the glove box?
    You can get a key from Volvo with the VIN #. Win the lottery first.

    I'd apply +12V from another car battery via the cigar lighter.
    It's fused, probably @ 25 amps, so you should be OK.
    You don't want any extra stuff such as the headlights on, and may need to pull fuses.

    Bill








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    Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

    First off, I would like a more experienced auto electric person to give my plan a sanity check.

    Assuming you can still open the door and pop the hood open….

    Important - First go to the positive terminal on the back side of the fuse box. With an ohm meter test for continuity between the positive terminal and car chassis. If you read a low resistance then it’s possible that the positive battery clamp is contacting the trunk floor, or other structure, and you should abort this method of powering the electrical system.

    If, on the other hand, your resistance test indicates an open circuit then it should be OK to connect +12v to the positive fuse box terminal and -12v the the car chassis. That should provide the necessary electrical power to unlock the trunk.

    Note: It’s quite possible that you will never read a totally open circuit when doing the resistance test due to things like the clock etc that constantly draw juice. But I’m not going to stick my neck out and suggest what a “safe” level of current draw would be in order to safely connect power to the fuse box terminal. Hopefully someone else can shine some light on this.








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      Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

      Hi Chris,

      Well that’s nice of you to say that a person should have some idea about his or her cars auto electrics.
      Wouldn’t we all!
      Since this person didn’t know that the trunk locks itself upon shutting it, that is a lesson learned too.
      Some people don’t know about Valet keys either but I covered that.

      And you might be right to worry about the positive cable touching something metallic. On new cars that is highly unlikely. They hide everything under a plastic shield or in a box.

      Besides, if you work on a battery operated system you should disconnect the negative side first and put it back last.
      The minus sign is a “clue” it’s not just used in mathematics.
      This is a way I remember, so there cannot be any chance of sparks jumping from your wrenches in any tight places, no matter what you are working on.
      Most Manuals fail to teach or even suggest which one cable is actually safer unless it hydrogen gases involved from a battery. A spark is a spark.
      Only one cable to mess with or fuss with and it can be left almost as loose as a goose!
      I’m trying to pass this idea on, if you don’t mind.

      I think to insinuate that I’m careless to suggest this idea or plan, well, it is a bit harsh. IMHO

      But to think he has a meter, to do things your way, is a bit far fetched for your suggestion to become conclusive or even viable.
      There’s too much dependence given to ohmmeters. In some inexperienced hands limitations to its usefulness leads to confusion. Same goes for test lights. Each have their places.

      IMO if a Positive cable is laying loose, how is it going to show up on an ohm meter?
      It would be a very high resistance, at best, due to such a small contact point to ground. The physical size and diameter has to be considered. I doubt it’s going to laying flat and tight enough to a ground anywhere but there is Murphy’s Law of chances. I’ll give you that, in this case, to the very extreme outside.

      Since I’m still living everyday learning while not depending on others for every little morsel of knowledge.
      I think I have reached some level of knowledge that any circuits can be energized from ends or even middles.
      If it’s a part of a whole system a power source can be put anywhere ahead of individual components drawing their polarized power. You named it as a fuse panel. You can pick and choose.

      Somewhere past that, the craziness starts.
      I addressed the under a rear seat battery or batteries in trunks. This being near the opposite end away from the highest amperage drawing component in systems.

      BMW and Nissan and a few other makes do when their engineers get desperate.
      External coolant lines around engines and some through plastic parts cracking draining out the coolant.
      Painting themselves into a corner is my reference.
      It is Not exactly something, I would be called safe engineering but once done and sold to the public the high water line is lowered, ever so slightly, to go unnoticed … until?


      So if you don’t like my plan then reread the post that he did not remove the battery but only disconnected “A”cable. He was going to put it back on.
      So, if we follow your advice he would still be sitting, say, in his camp site or on the side of the road somewhere?
      Waiting for advice on a plan from an auto electric person.

      Yes, as remote as we all are, he might be at home or camping?
      (:)

      Phil








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        Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

        “…. I think to insinuate that I’m careless to suggest this idea or plan, well, it is a bit harsh. IMH…..

        Phillip, I know the OP’s original problem has been successfully resolved but I gotta tell you, if my post contained something offensive it was surely unintentional. Actually, and I guess due to the BB’s latency in listing responses, I didn’t even see your post until AFTER I posted mine. I just suggested using the terminal on the fuse panel out of convenience - the end result being the same.

        Have a good weekend!








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      Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

      Chris. I understand your post, but you only need to apply positive 12 volts to the proper place and another connection to ground

      If you were to apply positive 12 volts to one place and negative 12 volts to another, you would be applying 24 volts over all.








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    Battery disconnected - cannot open trunk to get to battery S80 2005

    Hi,

    I do not know anything about these newer cars but I can try to think with you on this conundrum.

    If I understand your problem correctly it appears that the trunk only unlocks by using an electrical switch attached to a lever up in the drivers area. Much like a fuel door on some cars.

    You say there is an option to bypass this process located in the trunk, probably near the latch, that you access when the trunk is open.

    It surprises me or maybe it doesn’t!
    Having a trunk that locks automatically without being told too, by the central door lock relays that locks up the whole car is odd.
    The 1984 240 trunk has to have a key only but the car has electric door locks. So it has a totally separate key.
    On todays cars there are two keys. Maybe the key you have is only what is called the valet key?
    It keeps the valet out of the trunk and the console or glove boxes.

    The only suggestion at this point is to get power back on in the car. This can be done at several points in a car since you access to everything else.
    The most common place would be the starter connections as the battery runs power there and to the alternator systems first. A distribution point under the hood should start up there unless they put the distribution box back there at the battery?
    I have seen BMW, in Junkyards, do that a run a massive cable with a 200 amp circuit breaker there!
    That, I thought was crazy. Yes it protect the wire, but the amps up to that, can do a lot of damage before it trips.
    With that thinking maybe it’s why it was already in the JY.
    Good candidate of a car if you need a supply of battery cable wire.

    Volvo can also get its power from the rest of the car there through a body circuit connector.
    This can be where the fuse panel comes into play.
    So with that said applying power to either of these two locations will then energize the relays to unlock things.

    Ticket is, do you have the battery out or another one?
    Just a couple of jumper wires and you can get back in business.

    Phil







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