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Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

I scheduled aan airbag recall with my local dealer on my 2001 V70 and wouldn't you know, two days before the appointment, my sunroof stopped working, map lights too and no locks - as in by master switch or even key. Alarm Needs service message popped up.

My little dash red light blinks and the alarm lights go off but in my 7 years owning it, I have never had a siren.
Seems the siren battery leaks and corrodes and breaks the circuit of the sunroof lights and locks, true?

One site said the dealer only can use VIDA to remove the alarm permanently. I asked the dealer and they said the cost was $295 but they could not guarantee the car would accept the software change or if it would resolved the locks and sunroof.

Is the best way to deal just replace the siren/battery? I do not care about a working alarm system on a 22 year old beater with 300k miles bu I cannot have a stuck open sunroof and a car that cannot be locked/unlocked. Alarm siren replace gonna be $500-600

Suggestions?








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    Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

    A broken tailgate panel is not too uncommon.

    If people slam the tailgate hard enough they break the fastening system which isplastic (at least on 850s), tow of mine were broken, but patched up.

    Volvo sold a kit to add metal plates to the sockets of the system.








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    Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

    unplug the alarm module, problem solved.
    Sunroof will work, you just lose the alarm.








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      Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

      Hi Guys - thanks for all the replies.

      Well I had removed the fuse and that did not help. But as you know, I had to take my 2001 V70 to the dealer for an airbag recall. Even though I brought this additional issue to their attention, that the sunroof and central locking and map lights all stopped working at the same time, and that I had researched online and that this was a known issue among this model due to the wiring being on the same line and the battery corroding and leaking, and I asked if they could just use the VIDA Remove Alarm software product to remove it permnanently but they said the cost was $300 and was not guaranteed to work (or for the car to "take it")

      Anyway, after telling them that my central locking went out but that the rear passenger doors never worked in my 7 years owning it (only the driver, front pass, rear tailgate and gas), a tech checked over the car and sent me a video - he said it was in excellent shape otherwise withe some uneven feathering on tires - and this is an '01 with close to 300k miles. However, in the video he says the tailgate was not working and they opened it from the inside - when I got it home, the whole drive side of the inside panel plastic was broken with electrical tape over it and when I closed the tailgate, the panel flew half off. Shouldn't the dealer be responsible for this??? My panel is now broken.

      Then when no one figured out, a second tech looked at it and knew of this as a common problem on P2. They gave me a $1000 cost for the alarm siren replacement and said it was at cost (the siren is $238 on volvo usa site so I guess the rivets and labor are $700??). Paid $320 with tax for "diagnostic fee" walking away with aribrag recall fixed but locks still not working and sunroof open still and this was 10 days at the dealer!!!! And my tailgate panel is broken to boot!!

      Anyway, I bought a used reconditioned siren with new battery off ebay for $65 and saw a couple videos where one can just open the lower 3-4 rivets of the fender panel, disconnect old, connect new and tuck new one into a pocket space without all the grinding the one bolt out. Gonna do this as a DIY until my uncle mechanic in PA can fix right when i visit in the summer. Part comes this Wed so will update once done.


      Strangely no one reports the locks not working as issue with the siren - only sunroof and map lights.

      Is there are relay for central locks somewhere? I already replaced the fuse. Remember, only my driver, front pass, tailgate and gas lid ever worked on the master central (key or master switch). But one day, they all just stopped - same moment as sunroof and lights.


      I have never had a working keyless remote though I have it. It never worked - not a battery issue.








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    Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

    Here's a great tutorial on the fix:

    https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17479

    Call around to another dealer on the software delete (good independent Volvo specialists may also have the capability-- you need a paid subscription to VIDA to do this). That price seems outrageous, and they don't seem knowledgeable about the "older" models either-- the sunroof and lock stuff is well known!

    I have heard that people have had custom battery packs made up at Batteries Plus, complete with shrink wrapping, and then located them outside the alarm module to avoid leaks causing circuit board corrosion.

    Good luck!








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      Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

      Hi,

      That is a wonderful link to look into.
      I had no idea about this cars quirks until this thread started.
      I have learned a lot of things by thumping around in places I didn’t belong.
      Thanks!

      It’s also nice information about how to do a reset.
      That being the three times to lock and unlock the doors can be handy in many things today.
      That’s like radios having program codes with all zeros being the default.

      Now I wonder what got designed first. The car with an empty hole up there or the siren that needed that specific hole?
      Adding on a the special security fastener into that tight of a spot was an engineer with a sadistic attitude or had roommates in college that thought like squirrels.

      (:) IMO.

      Phil








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    Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

    Easy to replace yourself with unit from FCP. I've done it on my '04 V70AWD.
    Marlin








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      Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

      Think Marlin nailed it.
      --
      Will I buy another Volvo??? We'll see....








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        Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

        Hi Jim,

        How's the wrist?
        Kitty's Gay Volvo was looking for you.
        Mail to you goes unanswered?

        I think Machine man nailed it.
        Throwing expensive parts at this problem is crazy without reasoned diagnosis that's impossible without the wiring info.

        FREE OFFER to Johnnysuede:
        Provide the link for the Volvo wiring diagram for your car,
        then I can help you disable the alarm without killing your wallet.

        Cheers, Bill








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    Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

    Think of it as buying that car for $500-600. If you wouldn't buy it then its time to send it to the scrap yard.








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      Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

      They told me $500-600 initially and then upped it to over $1,000 and said it was at cost. I was also charged a $320 diagnostic fee - the first tech couldn't figure it out even though I said it was the siren battery/board causing the issue. The second tech just repeated my claim back to me. And the one tech actually broke my tsilgate interior panel (the plastic on the driver side where it attaches - all broken up in pieces by him). I had said the central lock wasn't working as part of the siren issue (sunroof and map lights too) but from the video I was sent, he seemed to think it was an issue he resolved, opening the tailgate from the inside but now every time I close the tailgate, the panel nearly falls off. I need to make a claim.

      You know, only one tech at the entire dealer could drive a manual trans too. Hmmmmmm. Well, at least airbag recall fixed - won't die from metal shrapnel if I get into an accident.








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      Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

      Of course - nothing has gone wrong on it really since 2016 besides two decades of wear and tear.
      But the dealer has now had the car since Tuesday and didn't jump at proposing the siren and battery replacement as a fix for th Alarm Service Message AND the sunroof/Map Lights/Locks situation. Though it seems this is a known issue on 01's with folks saying the siren battery corrodes and leaks and its on the same circuit line as those other items.

      Has anyone had the Alarm System Service message and had their sunroof/locks/map lights go dead? Was a new siren/battery the fix? I imagine it is the battery leaking b/c as I said, never had the siren in the 6-7 years I have owned - only the flashing lights for the alarm








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        Alarm Service = No Sunroof/Locks/Map Lights V70-XC70 2001

        Hi,

        I don’t know anything about these cars but if it were mine I would dig up a wiring diagram from a good library data search or a shop manual.

        From there you should be able to figure out how there’s power being distributed from a central point. At least a relay bank for the doors on older cars, before “CAN” WIRING BUSES. 2001 should not be a CAN.

        The dealer should have access to things like that right away.
        All kinds of service bulletins should have been issued over the years.
        They may be in an archive but available for dealer requesting.
        These are done easier by getting a “regional” customer service person in the loop. Not a service writer or manager of the local shop.
        A decent dealer should have done this over the years for all those other customers of the past.
        Especially if they want repeat customers.

        As far as a battery leaking I could believe that it very possible over these many years.
        If such a thing has happen inside a module, the circuit traces between the components, on the board, have been eaten into.
        Just applying gunk to one incoming power trace would be plenty to kill the whole thing.
        A repair would be to put in a jumper wire over the bad trace.

        This is not the first time I have run into this.
        My sister-in-law “had” a Range Rover with an inoperable sunroof that turned out to be a bad solder joint to a small module up behind the push button controller.
        They wanted six hundred dollars to replace software for the brakes and install a new module for the sunroof. Of course after a diagnostics fee to confirm it was software.

        I fixed the sunroof with solder and the brakes was a bad wheel sensor.
        I cleaned all of them to conclude that it was one of three. The rear end was not it so get one sensor for the wheels and move it around. That was my diagnostics.

        I said HAD above …
        I saved her a bundle but when the special or exclusive made engine, from General Motors went bad, she junked it to charity. The whole vehicle of 2002 was also a nightmare of hodgepodge, with Lucas and Italian stuff inside.
        If I remember correctly, Mercedes gave up trying to sort out the bugs within the company. Too British was the Germans excuse.
        Or was that Chrysler and getting the Fiat 500 cars too?
        Maybe both? Ford was jumping around with Lotus, Jaguars and Volvo.

        You might still be lucky to fix things on this car yourself and learn stuff you’ll never forget.
        Be a Scotty on your own ship and call it your private Enterprise. 🛠

        Phil







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