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Erratic engine speed 400 1993

My 1.8 litre 440 (B18U single point injection) seems to have an uncontrollable engine speed. Not only at idle, it is also erratic with throttle partly open which makes driving very difficult and sometimes dangerous. Idle speed can be anywhere up to 4000rpm. No funny noises, black smoke, overheating or other obvious signs of bad stuff.

Searching through the archives, I see many cases of "bad idle" where anything from vacuum leaks, throttle position sensor, sticky throttle to idle control valve are suggested as culprits, but I am not sure which of these could also cause erratic rpm throughout the driving range.

Can anyone help me?

I had noticed a few months back that the revs sometimes oscillated (maybe +/- 200 rpm?) at idle, but it was nowhere near as bad as this.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

Caz








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    Erratic engine speed 400 1993

    I have a 1995 440 with B18U and have had idle problems, including seeing the idle speed go up to around 2000 rpm. My main problem has been stalling at idle with hot engine and this seems to be due to vaccuum leaks.

    There are two black plastic pipes which come over the brake resevoir and join the back of the inlet assembly using short braid covered pipes. I have these were perished and I have replaced them. Things look OK, but it is early days yet. Note that one of these pipes has a small brass restrictor in it, so don't throw away!!.

    Also, the temp gauge and ECU definately use separate senders. ECU is on the fron with a latching connector, temp gauge is around the back with a blade type.

    I have found a Haynes manual which gives all the info for reading ECU fault codes and doing tests. Covers the 440 well.








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    Erratic engine speed 400 1993

    I have a similar problem, but at this point haven't got to the bottom of it. So far have had injection system cleaned, tune up -everything but plug wires, which seem ok, have replaced crank (rpm) sensor, and the coil. Now have found that the temperature guage is dropping back to cold just before it gets to regular running temp (about 3:00 oclock on the 94 850 non turbo) and within a couple of minutes, the stalling, then over revving, up to 3 -3500rpms begins, sometimes ( like this morning)it stayed t about 3500 til I shut it down, other times it goes up and down, tries to stall ,etc. been driving me crazy for about a month. The temp guage, and the fact that I haven't seen the fan running at all, are leading me to having that stuff checked ie, the ECT sensor an associated wiring/ connections, and the fan. Also will probably replace the thermostat while its at the shop.

    Not sure this is the answer but I and my mechanic are running out of ideas... let me know if you get anywhere and I'll do the same.










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      Erratic engine speed 400 1993

      On a different forum, someone has said it sounds like the Idle stepper motor has gone. This seems to fit as my boyfriend "gently tapped" this bit with a hammer last night and it seemed to sort it out. Drove it to work this morning no probs, but when I parked the idle had risen slightly to 1100rpm. I reckon this bit must be on the way out, or sticking or something.

      Also, I did hear on another forum that the temp gauge you see on the dash is not the same as the signal that goes to the ECU. The temp gauge on ours hasn;t done anything funny.







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