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V70 Hard Starting V70-XC70

My 1999 V70 is very hard to start when cold, i.e., hasn't been running for several hours. The characteristic jerky start-up is terrible and it takes two attempts to get it going. It will rattle and shake before finally turning over and running.

Also, at idle, my car seems quite noisy. There is somewhat of a vibration which is transferred to the dash which is annoying.

This vehicle has about 73K on it. I recently had it into the Volvo Dealer and they "cleaned the ventilation and valve and banjo fitting." The "turbo return line seal" was also replaced.

At 64K, we had the little matter of the throttle body module replacement. The 60K service was completed which included the tune-up.

One of the problems I am having is bouncing between the dealership and the aftermarket shop, the latter of which doesn't have the equipment, even though they only work on Volvos, to reset, diagnose, etc. the stuff in the 99 and later vehicles.

My other car is a 91 240 wagon. Do I own a lemon, just have bad luck or is this what I am destined to suffer with?????????

Steve, Memphis, TN

Oh.....I forgot to mention, since I know we don't like whining.....my ABS light has been on steady for about 1.5 months now. Engine light has come off and on daily to weekly since I got the car with 32K miles on it.

What else can go wrong with this thing???????? Are they any good at ALL?????








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    Adding to what was already said...my problems, which occurred within a year of the prior owners replacement of the TB (also a 99) were fixed with replacement of the air temp sensor and the coolant temp sensor.



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    Don't fool with your engine light coming on. I'd push your Volvo dealer for a throttle module replacement, at Volvo's cost.

    Pressure Increases on Volvo to Pay to Replace Faulty Throttles
    By Myron Levin, Times Staff Writer
    Defective throttles in 1999-2001 Volvos have been failing at unusually high rates,
    causing cars to stall, raising air emissions and sticking owners with costly
    repairs.
    State and federal air quality officials are pressing Volvo for a commitment to spend
    millions of dollars to replace the devices as they fail, and to reimburse owners who
    have paid for the work themselves.
    The faulty components are electronic throttle modules, or ETMs, which Volvo began
    substituting for traditional mechanical throttles in its '99 models. Although
    designed for a useful life of 100,000 miles, an estimated 21% to 94% will fail
    within that time, depending on vehicle model, according to reports by Volvo to the
    California Air Resources Board and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
    The state air board, backed by the EPA, wants Volvo to extend the warranty on the
    throttles to 10 years and unlimited miles and reimburse owners who have already paid
    as much as $1,000 to replace them. The basic warranty on the cars is four years or
    50,000 miles, though in California emissions-related components by law are covered
    for seven years or 70,000 miles.
    The faulty throttles also are the subject of a class-action suit charging that Volvo
    violated California law by issuing a so-called secret warranty to assist some but
    not all owners with defective throttles.
    Volvo executives refused to be interviewed or to answer written questions but said
    in a prepared statement that it "is working with the California Air Resources Board
    relative to the ETM, and we are fully cooperating with them."
    Although pressure on Volvo is coming mainly from California, any warranty extensions
    and reimbursements would apply nationwide. Volvo would not say how many vehicles are
    involved. But based on U.S. sales of affected vehicles, including C70, S70, V70, S60
    and S80 Series Volvos, the number appears to be 200,000 to 300,000 cars.
    "We're in the gray area between consumer protection and emissions control," said
    John Urkov, a branch chief with the Air Resources Board. Volvo is "going to have to
    spend some money to do what we feel is the minimum necessary to get out of this
    situation."
    At a meeting with company representatives Feb. 23, air board officials rejected
    arguments that Volvo had already taken all reasonable steps and was not responsible
    past the warranty period. The automaker is expected to respond early next month to
    the request for a warranty extension, Urkov said.
    For the Swedish carmaker, a Ford Motor Co. unit known for advanced safety and
    technological sophistication, the problem has been an embarrassing and expensive
    headache.
    "ETM issues are currently a major source of warranty cost and customer
    dissatisfaction in the U.S. market," said a June 29, 2004, internal document
    produced in the lawsuit against Volvo.
    Customers have complained of dangerous stalling episodes on major thoroughfares and
    have accused Volvo representatives of trying to shift blame by telling owners they
    had bought bad gasoline or did not follow the recommended maintenance schedule.
    "I feel the representatives of Volvo misled me," said Christine Noriega of Mar
    Vista, who said she recently paid about $200 to service the throttle in her Volvo
    sedan after a dealer inaccurately told her that her warranty had expired.
    The June 2004 Volvo document said that in just over a year, the company had paid
    more than $13.5 million to replace or clean 27,200 throttles and to buy back cars as
    a goodwill gesture.
    In many cases, however, owners have paid for the work because their warranties had
    expired or they did not know the throttle was covered.
    The class-action suit concerns a July 2001 Volvo notice to dealers agreeing to pay
    for one ETM cleaning per customer. California is one of a handful of states that bar
    secret warranties, in which vehicle makers extend service to owners who squawk the
    loudest but fail to tell all owners.
    The lawsuit, filed in Sacramento County Superior Court by San Mateo, Calif., law
    firm Fazio & Micheletti, alleges that the Volvo notice amounted to a secret
    warranty.
    Dina Micheletti, a partner in the firm, said the action was suspect for another
    reason too: Volvo has acknowledged in internal documents that cleaning a faulty
    throttle to remove oily deposits that caused the malfunction can keep the device
    going only for a while. Thus, the procedure can get Volvo beyond the warranty
    period, with owners getting stuck later with the higher cost of throttle
    replacement.
    Volvo said it "is actively defending the case and believes it has complied with the
    applicable California law."
    When Volvo introduced it, the ETM was considered an advance over the mechanical
    throttles used in virtually all other cars and trucks. Like the mechanical version,
    it's a valve that flaps open and shut to control airflow to the fuel system and,
    ultimately, the output of power from the engine.
    But in at least the first three model years, the electronic throttles were easily
    fouled by carbon deposits, causing rough idle, increased emissions and frequently
    loss of power and stalls. Micheletti said warranty claims data produced in the
    lawsuit reflected close to 1,000 reports of stalling from California Volvo owners
    alone.
    Volvo documents show that the problem reared its head in the factory even before '99
    models hit the showroom.
    According to a Volvo memo in March 2000, "we have had problems with faulty throttles
    in the car plants … since SOP 98w20" — a reference to the start of production in the
    20th week of 1998.
    Volvo scrapped the original design and switched suppliers early in the '02 model
    year, a change that is believed to have reduced the problem.
    Urkov said throttle malfunctions caused cars to pollute more than they otherwise
    would. But he said the Air Resources Board had not ordered a recall, because it
    couldn't prove that the extra emissions exceeded legal standards.
    As an alternative, he said, the agency is pushing the extended warranty as "the
    proper corrective action." Urkov said Volvo's stance had been that once the warranty
    expired, maintaining the ETM should be the owner's responsibility.
    That argument "basically fell on deaf ears," he said, because Volvo had certified
    the device as maintenance-free when the emissions system was approved. "We want
    Volvo to … step up to the plate," Urkov said.
    Through Internet chat rooms and e-mail networks, Volvo owners have been calling for
    action too.



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    Since had granades and sticks of dynamite are illegal, go to your Indy and get the codes read and then cleared, all of them. Clean you plugs, they are bound to be very dirty. Too much gas and not enough air is the usual culprit.

    Let us know what the codes are,

    Klaus
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    98 V70Rawd(108Kmi), 95 854T(88K mi), 75 164E(173K mi)



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