Dave,

try this address

http:\\www.acceleration-online.com/auto.htm

it contains links to almost all manufacters home pages, auto magazines, and various sutomotive related sites...including Edmunds amd Kellys. Both of these sites give the math on what you should pay for a car as well as any factory hold backs and rebates.

I used their guidance on my Volvo purchase and I came within $50 of their worksheets.

now do your research, swallow hard, and prepare to spend 40 big ones!