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Tranny Slippage 900

Greetings,

My 1993 944T is having problems.

Driving on the highway I noticed a bit of slipping of my automatic transmission. The engine would change RPM presumably because there was less resistance from the transmission.

Later, on the sidestreets, the slippage was extreme. The car would require approximately 3000rpm to keep the car going even 20km.

I stopped the car, turned off the engine and checked the transmission fluid. It looked liked it was higher than maximum, but that may be because it had not settled down yet. The fluid looked fine; there did not appear to be any contaminants such as coolant or engine oil.

Help me please. What is wrong? What should I do?

Regards,
Chris (NewToVolvo)








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    Tranny Slippage 900

    Sounds as if your tranny is shot. If so under no circumstances go to the Volvo dealer or a transmission shop, you will get rimmed for sure. Those transmissions are very reliable and rarely fail and as result used transmissions are plentiful and cheap and they are rarely rebuilt. Your best bet is to pick up a used tranny from a wrecker and have a regular shop that knows and respects Volvos to install it. Have them install a new rear main engine seal at the same time and a front tranny seal as well.
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    David Hunter








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    First, check the fluid level per the prior instructions. If that is OK, then drop the pan and clean it out along with the strainer. Any detritus in the pan will give you insight into problems inside. Refill the pan, then flush the tranny per the FAQ instructions. Refill to proper level. If you still have problems, then start looking for a good used transmission to install.
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    See the 700/900 FAQ under 'Select Link' button on the top right.








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      Tranny Slippage 900

      From these symptoms, unless the filter is completely plugged (a very bad sign in itself), no amount of flushing or new fluid is going to cure that gearbox. The suggestion is only good if he can get good apply pressure again where the unit has a chance to continue working. Simply flushing a damaged unit is basically a waste of good fluid.

      If the unit is unsaveable, a used gearbox is clearly his best option since it is very likely going to be a good one.








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    Is the transmission slipping? or not upshifting? With foot firmly on the brake (use a parking lot or quiet road); put trans in D, open throttle all the way and read tach - release throttle as soon as you've read tach. Allow 20-30 seconds cooling time and repeat test in both low and reverse gears. Write back with your RPMs in each of those gears and I (or others) can tell you what is wrong.

    Be sure to check the fluid while running in P first.








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      Tranny Slippage 900

      Re RPM in each gear.

      Before I read your message, I just took it around the block. I selected each gear sequentially and the transmission shifted up to each gear, i.e. from 1st to 3rd.

      After about two minutes, I noticed that the transmission was "slipping" again. In fact, it was almost impossible to start moving again after I had stopped the car from moving. I had to give the engine approximately 2500 rpm to get things moving. Even then, the car felt as if it would stop at any time.

      There was also a slight metal sound that was not present before today.

      I put it in reverse and it would not move. It's parked right now as I search for a ride home.

      Any suggestions?

      Regards,
      Chris (NewToVolvo)








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        Yes, you've narrowed it down a lot. To have that kind of slippage in both forward and reverse (they use completely different sections of the transmission), you have a serious loss of mainline fluid pressure. It is better when cold due to higher viscosity causing less loss where normal internal leakage exists.

        While it is possible that one of the fluid transfer pipes in the AW has worked itself loose, it is MUCH more likely that the filter is so plugged that it cannot draw fluid into the pump quickly enough to maintain minimum apply pressures. That condition often causes pump cavitation and pressure regulator chatter - which could explain the "metallic" noise you're now hearing.

        If the fluid is not severely burnt or silvery / metallic, you may have a chance of saving it. Every bit of slippage = more clutch plate wear. In english; don't drive it home unless you stop it every time it's hot enough to slip and let it cool down. Your only hope is that the filter is clogged and you change it before the damage occurs. If it is not clogged, then don't even waste a new filter on it - the problem is more severe.








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          Last summer the radiator was replaced. Coolant had mixed into the transmission. The transmission fluid is cooled through part of the rad. The tranny was flushed at the time. I am told that coolant will have deleterious effects on the transmission. I believe that the rubber seals will distort, etc.

          A transmission specialist has diagnosed the problem as almost certainly being caused by the coolant and ATF mixing. He believes that the seals will be ruined and the 'clutches' likely have burned out.

          Does this diagnosis sound probable? I dropped off the car this morning. He estimates the cost of a rebuild $1650 to $2350. Does that sound reasonable?

          I need a car that is 1) safe, 2)reliable and 3)not too expensive to operate. Is this car meeting my requirements for 2 and 3?

          Chris (NewToVolvo)








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            Dear Chris,

            Good p.m. and may this find you well. The water in the ATF, which got into the tranny, likely dissolved some of the glue, that holds the clutch material to the backing plate. Fibers from the clutch packs have gotten loose. These likely have clogged the filter and the narrow passageways in the valve bodies.

            Don't try to salvage/re-build this transmission. Go to a salvage yard, which has 940s. If at all possible, ask the yard operator for leave to go from car-to-car, either escorted or alone.

            Given leave to inspect the cars, here's what you should do. Pull the transmission dip-stick. If the fluid is rosy-red, oily, and clear, that's good. Make a note of the car's mileage (or Km traveled).

            Go on to the next car. If you find brown/black fluid, go no further with that car: the fluid is dirty and the tranny has been compromised. If you seen orangey fluid - rather than a clear rosy-red - keep moving: the tranny has overheated, and the fluid has been cooked. If you see fluid that seems watery - rather than oily - it, too, has been over-heated. If you see milky fluid, run from that car: there's water in the ATF!

            Once you find the lowest-miles car with rosy-red fluid, ask to have that tranny removed. Any transmission shop can install it. It should be flushed with good quality ATF, and run for 1,500 Km. I'd then have it flushed again, with Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF. Then, you should have many happy KM ahead of you.

            The advice given as to replacing the tranny seals - and the engine rear main seal - is sound. Doing these things is not costly, when the tranny has had to be be removed.

            Hope this helps.

            Yours faithfully,

            spook








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            Tranny Slippage 900

            Didn't know that car had a history. The AW transmission has very little neoprene (rubber has not been used since the 1950s). Most of the seals are cast iron or teflon. Besides, glycol should not affect the soft parts. The trouble with antifreeze is the water that causes rust on the steel and iron parts.

            It is very easy for the tranny guy to make an expensive call with your money. Have him check for a plugged filter. This could be the result of the emulsion of coolant and ATF... assuming the filter was not changed after the cooler failure. It is the only inexpensive plan of attack and he is likely correct that there is damage. There is a chance for saving it IF you have not been driving this around while slipping.

            Worst case; the forward clutch is burned beyond usability. His price is about right for rebuilding that unit >>> BUT !!!<<< the AW-71 is such a dependable gearbox that buying a used one for $200-400 is an excellent gamble. They are quite common in RWD Volvos (it is the Toyota A43 unit) and the chances of getting a defective one are slim. You'll need one from a 1990 or later turbo powered 740, 760, or 940 for the crankshaft pickup sensor hole. No 16-valve (that's the AW-72L), no non-turbo (AW-70).

            You are not a registered user so I cannot tell where you are. The reference to km/h says not in US.








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    Tranny Slippage 900

    Tranny fluid in that car (and most automatics) is checked when warm and with ENGINE RUNNING in Park.Move shifter through gears,then back to Park.








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      Tranny Slippage 900

      You need to check the fluid level properly and if it is in the proper range then it sounds like your trans is smoked and will need to be overhauled.

      Mark







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