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Well not everywhere, but I have a substantial amount of water in the rear passenger footwell in my '84 245.
I read some previous posts that this could be from the wiper motor grommet or the windscreen vents not draining. There is such a decent amount of water, that I'd be surprised if it could be from the grommet alone. I don't have a sunroof.
What areas do i need to clean out? Where are the drain ports for the air vents on the hood?
Thanks in advance for your responses!
Soggy Greg
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posted by
someone claiming to be chris with an '86 245
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Tue Aug 29 05:24 CST 2006 [ RELATED]
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depending on where you live, you may want to check your floor panels under the car. unlike the front floor panels which also have a sort of flat skid plate underneath, the rears are basically just a floor pan. They also tend to rust out very badly at the front of these between the fronts and rears. at times when i drive my car (with rusted floors) in the rain I get lots of water coming in from these rust holes or crevases. Since the rear floor pans are angled down and back, they then have no real outlet for the water after it soaks in through underneath. They salt the roads for every possible reason here in Indiana so there is tons of rust hole possibilities if you are in a state like mine.'
good luck
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The front air intake cowl vents drain into the rocker panels, which have small rectangular 'holes' under the rocker panels to drain the water.
The inside of the rockers will fill up with leaves,pine needles and other trash, block the drains and then eat a rust hole into the interior ,or seep through the round plastic hole plugs.
Pull up the platic front door sill cover piece, then peel back the carpet and you will see the plastic plugs. Remove the plugs and vacuum out the trash, and take a coat hanger or similar tool to ream out/clear the bottom drain holes/slits.
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Gary Gilliam Sumerduck VA,' 94 940 Regina, '86 240GL
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Thanks,
Really great responses!
I'll take out the carpet and vacuum out the rockers. Once that is done, will future water flow directly out of the lower seam of the rockers?
Are the rectangular 'holes' you mention the crimped parts on the vertical seam?
-Greg
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posted by
someone claiming to be Kyle240
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Tue Aug 29 06:19 CST 2006 [ RELATED]
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egg-zactly
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posted by
someone claiming to be Kyle240
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Tue Aug 29 04:39 CST 2006 [ RELATED]
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i found leafs in my rockers and rust where the floor meets them
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That sounds promising. How is it best cleared out? What needs to be opened up?
-Greg
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posted by
someone claiming to be Kyle240
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Tue Aug 29 05:06 CST 2006 [ RELATED]
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i took the seats and rugs out padding was soaked. theres white plugs and seat belt boxes to see into teh rocker. hanger wire and vaccum.
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AC working? AC drain is a likey culprit.
If AC is not ever used you likely can ignore the below.
Drain is located on rear or on passenger side of AC assembly. Drains water down into tranny tunnel. Access it by removing the cover panel for right side of center console. Rubber hose thing with a molded right-angle bend. Bottom of hose is a tapered V thing that gets plugged up. Cut off the lower 1/4 inch or so of the V so it stays clear.
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DAMHIK: Don't Ask Me How I Know - - - Sven: '89 245, IPD sways, electric rad. fan conversion, e-codes, 28+ mpg - auto tranny. 500 mi/week commute. '89 245 #2 (wifemobile). '90 244 (spare, runs).
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Ooh yeah,
Thanks for the post...forgot to mention, I replaced every a/c component and cleaned everything out in the process. It drains fine. and the a/c works!!
The mass of water is in the rear foot well, not the front, and has an accumulation of probably 20-30 ounces of water after a recent road trip in the rain. Nothing spilled back there (bottle of water, etc), so it definitely seems like there was a good flow.
Any other ideas?
Cheers,
Greg
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You're probably back to the wiper motor seals (there are two), and even more likely, the windscreen area drains. I saw a post maybe a month or two ago telling where and how you get at them, but I can't remember.
What I do remember is that they're at the corners. Just can't recall if you get to them via the firewall side or the kick panel area up high behind the glove box or?? Try look from the engine side. Peel up some of that acoustical padding, see if there's access at the corner there. I'm just stabbing around though. I did read that clogs there force water to emerge at the back seat floor area.
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DAMHIK: Don't Ask Me How I Know - - - Sven: '89 245, IPD sways, electric rad. fan conversion, e-codes, 28+ mpg - auto tranny. 500 mi/week commute. '89 245 #2 (wifemobile). '90 244 (spare, runs).
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Good tip about the padding. From underneath the dash everything looked pretty dry, that's what gets me confused.
I definitely want to address this before rust goes crazy. I want to keep this one for awhile. Especially after dropping big bucks on the a/c and tune up parts.
-Greg
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Last night i pulled the front and rear threshold moldings and pulled the carpets back. The rockers were completely packed, so I thought that must be the answer. I vacuumed all the crud out and i poured water into the cowl vents...water drained right out where it should.
Upon further inspection in the rear, the water infiltration I was getting wasn't coming down the rockers, but from a hole in the rear wheel well. Water was getting in just below the lap anchor bolt for the rear seat belt. I removed much of the undercoat around the area to reveal a pretty large hole.
While travelling this weekend in the rain, water was seeping in and running down the rear seat tray and spilling onto the floor.
For all of you who have water in the rear foot well, please take a look at your cars and see if the area around your seat belt bolt is rusted too. Your rear seat passengers depend on it! Considering the strength of the seat belt is affected, I'm going to be welding in a repair when I thought I'd just be POR-15ing the floors. Keep the 240's rolling but keep 'em safe too!
Best,
Greg
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