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Tricky Wires 200 1980

Hello All!
Can someone help me with my 1980 wagon?
How do you fix the wires that run through the wagon to the license plate lights?
The wires look cracked where they run through the tailgate hinge, and I am convinced this is why the lights don't work.

Thanks








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Wires thru the tailgate hinges typically crack and develop problems eventually.

Have a look in the FAQ; I think the same thing happens with 700/900 cars and the information should be there.

Anyway, here are some basics:

Wires pass through both hinges. There are five items powered by wires through the hinges. Four for early cars without the center brake light. Later ones include a ground wire, I think one on each side. Early cars maybe no ground wire?

License plate lights
rear wiper
defrost
power lock
center brake light

You can do a semi-ugly job without removing the hinges. If you want an invisible job I think you have to pull the hinges. If doing that, best is probably one at a time with sturdy support holding up the tailgate. One guy used a "skyhook"; a rope from garage doorway looped under the tailgate to hold it up.

I never did a hinge removal. For that I'd recommend a good wire harness kit. OEM wires are super-fine stranded for lots of flex-ability. You can get tailgate wiring harness kits from fcpgroton ("Miscellaneous" page??) and also from ipdusa.com, if I recall. Not tooo expensive.

I did the semi-ugly job twice so far; I ended up with a loop of wire hanging down at the corner that I repaired - that's what made it semi-ugly. Details below.

Headliner removes by grabbing the edge where it wraps over. Grab hard and pull. It will pop back on when you're done. You can route replacement wiring out at headliner edge and back into tailgate at its top edge; you'll find a hole in the sheet metal. I only had to work on the right side hinge wiring. Found a second hole in tailgate along the window edge area. Using the two holes in the sheet metal I was able to route the wiring reasonably.

Cut OEM wires inside the roof and also in the gate, as close to the hinge as you can - probably thru the upper access hole in door. Pull the pigtails out at the lower hole (along side the window). Route new good wire down into door at top hole, along window and out the lower hole, next to the window. Leave enough wire length to be able to splice to existing, up inside the roof cavity.

With the new wires and existing pigtails both sticking out at the lower hole, you can splice them together. Stagger the splices so they're not all at the same place, makes too big a lump to get back in the hole easily. Push the wires back in the hole along side the window. Go back to the upper end of the new wire set; route it into the roof acvity at the edge and splice it to the existing wire there.

Go inside and get warmed up, have a beer, tell your significant other that you just saved $200 in shop costs.

Splicing: Use crimp connectors, and get a decent crimper if you don't have one yet. The connectors come in different sizes for different wire thicknesses. You'll have to deal with the metric wire sizes that don't match the USA sizes but there's always a connector that works OK. If the wire is too thin, fold it over double - but don't tell anyone I said to do that. If it's just a little bit too thick, cut off a couple strands - but I never said to do that either.
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Tricky Wires 200 1980

Could be saving more than $200! I'm in the sticks in Nevada here, but had little luck when I asked a few places about fixing my broken wires. The shop I usually went to said they'd have to send it to a body shop to get the tailgate off. Wasn't sure why they had to go to a body shop to do that. So I went to a body shop to ask about it and a perplexed guy there threw out a figure of $350 to fix it. Anyway, with things getting colder here I need to get the rear defrost and brake light working, so I'm going to rewire it tomorrow.

Jeff








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I've done this job several times, and I've see no reason to do it any way other than the way the factory built it.

There is black sticky sealer goo in there under the hinge rubber seals. I use latex gloves to keep that crap off my hands, and so that I can then have clean hands when I need to handle the headliner and so on.

You do need a second person for a bit, or something like a tripod or other telescoping support to hold the hatch for a little while, during the time that the hinge screws are out.

The screws are tucked into the corners of the headliner and a bit hidden under the hatch weatherstripping, but not that hard to get at with regular sockets and a short extension.

Tie or tape a piece of wire to the old harness as you pull them out of the side of the hatch. Then tie the new harness to the wire, and feed it back through. I found that there's one connector on the new harnesses that needs to be removed temporarily in order to successfully pull the wires through. Each connector end has a little tab on the pin- you depress this and the cover or housing for the connector pops off. Normally they just snap back together but may require a little tweak of the tab so they lock in.

It may take two or three attempts to get the harnesses in exactly the right place in the hinges, but once you've got the right length inside the car, it'll be simple to put it back together.

I'd say probably every 245 needs this done at some point in its life.
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More detail on the "semi ugly" method at http://www.vclassics.com/archive/tailgate.htm

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Tricky Wires 200 1980

I rigged-up a bracket in the garage to hold up the tailgate. Peeled back enough of the headliner, unbolted the hinges, and spliced the wires. License plate lights and rear wiper now work. It took me about 1/2 hour.
Thanks for the advice.







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