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pan plugs?

hi all.
i was looking at a 92 940 in the junkyard the other day and noticed rubber plugs in the tranny pan and oil pan, and i was wondering what they are doing there?
my 240s dont have the rubber plugs.
thanks








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    pan plugs/nightmare on IFFY LUBE street.

    Usually they put a 'replacement' plug with a 3/8 hex drive in
    And a generic oil filter,and for the 'coup de grace' they dump
    cheap oil all over the wiring, engine,manifold and belts.
    Rotten wiring insulation,filthy engine,smoked eyeballs,
    and new belts and alternator later you are somewhat
    wiser but considerably poorer.
    PS. I told my Mom NEVER take your car anywhere for an oil change.
    Yes It's a true story,sad but true.
    Ken
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    Jiffy Lube stuff! ....

    I've heard that some outfits like JiffyLube (not sure it they're actually the ones, or some other outfit like them), to save time, just toss the original screw-on plugs and insert these.

    Legend (myth? true? I don't know) is that they're often getting sued for having stripped the original threads (cross-threading or overtorquing) and having to pay for new oil pans (often big costs) and so adopted these plugs instead -- you can't damage threads if you don't screw any plug back in. Of course, this compels the user to come back to them for the next oil change, but then, anyone who uses them even once deserves this for having sold their soul to the devil. And I don't know how trustworthy these plugs are, anyway. They would sure scare me!

    So, again, I can't say how much of any of this is true -- I've never had any personal experience with these kinds of outfits, but I've read a lot of sob stories like this at other places, particularly M-B owner websites.








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      Jiffy Lube stuff! ....

      hi ken
      maybe i am not describing what i seen correctly.
      this looks like a factory rubber plug about 3-4 inches from the screw in plugs.
      just makes me wonder.
      thanks








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        Sorry, I misunderstood, but it's a mystery, and certainly *not* 'factory' ....

        Sorry I misunderstood.

        I can't imagine what would be there for those plugs. Three or 4 inches from the oil drain plug, in any direction (i.e., radius of a circle) around the drain plug on a red-block engine sump is virtually in the middle of nowhere! There should be no other hole in which to put a plug. And you say that there's also one on the transmission (automatic?) sump, too?

        It would really be helpful if you had a picture (digital camera?), but let's try anyway to think out-of the box -- this is certainly *not* factory equipment! So here're two "way out there" ideas:

        1) Could the P.O. (previous owner) have installed temperature gauges for the engine oil and transmission fluid? I know that the usual way is to insert sensors that substitute for the original drain plugs, and even though the better location would be the side of the sumps (to avoid being hit and broken off by road debris) maybe he wanted to install them differently, by drilling new holes so they're separate from the drain plugs. Later, he removed the senders, and filled the holes with these plugs. No? Well, I told you these would be "way out there" :-).

        2) Maybe they're not plugs at all? Not being able to see what you're seeing, I'll take the liberty of suggesting that maybe they're just glued on to the bottom of the sumps, and perhaps just look like plugs. I know it's intimidating to try to remove them (and risk having your fluids drain out), but is there any sign of anything else having ever been installed? I'm thinking maybe some sort of customized skid plate that covered or extended to not only the engine sump but also the transmission? And he put some rubber cushions or "bumpers" between the sumps and the skid plate for extra impact protection? Well, as I already wrote, these are "out of the box", but what else can we do with something that shouldn't be there. And, I can't see what you're looking at.

        Good luck. And think about borrowing a camera?

        And Happy Thanksgiving.








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          Sorry, I misunderstood, but it's a mystery, and certainly *not* 'factory' ....

          hi ken
          since these plugs seem to be a mystery i will take my camera to the yard and get a couple of pics.
          thanks
          mike







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