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1983 245 dl Loses power after warming up. 200 1983

Hi,
My 83 starts right up & drives fine until it warms up & then starts knocking & pinging like it has bad gas. It has no power as well. I treated the gas with water remover then filled it up. Still running terribly. It also stalls when I stop but starts right up. As soon as I put it into drive, it stalls again a few more times until it finally limps home.








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    1983 245 dl Loses power after warming up. 200 1983

    Since it starts up and runs fine until it warms up, I'd suspect the AMM, ECU, or ignition module. It's the electronics that are warming up and then faulting out. I don't know of any reliable test methods for these components other that direct replacement with known good units. I had good luck with a $100 used ECU from Hirsch Foreign in Phoenix. A 280-000-503 or 280-000-510 will work but the 503 (red label) is best. I buy Python remanufactured AMM's for around $175. I've never had to replace an ignition module (two 83's with over half a million miles total).

    Before spending money on the above, you could check the temp sensor for the fuel injection system (not the gauge sensor). Since the sensor is hard to access under the intake manifold, the easy way to check it is at the ECU 25 pin connector using an ohm meter. With the engine cold, disconnect the 25 pin connector and measure the resistance from pin 2 (on the connector, not the ECU) to ground. Hold the connector looking at the pins with the cable coming in at the top; pin 2 is the top left pin. The resistance should read around 3000 ohms. Reconnect the 25 pin connector and run the engine up to normal operating temperature. Disconnect the 25 pin connector and check the resistance. It should read around 500 ohms. jp








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    1983 245 dl Loses power after warming up. 200 1983

    Check the thermostat in the air intake box, it may be stuck in the open position.

    If it is, it will suck in hot air from the preheater tube, and will kill your performance and will also before long kill your AMM. Check it out.
    --
    Bruce S. near D.C.








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      1983 245 dl Loses power after warming up. 200 1983

      Thank you Bruce S., that was very helpful and you were absolutely correct in your diagnosis. I found the thermostat in the open position so I swapped out the entire box with one from my old 1990 240. That improved the horspower & some of the knocking & pinging so it's drivable once again. However I'm still having some issues with the knocking & pinging and stalling when I stop sometimes. I can hear the rpms drop and just before it dies the idle picks up again & it recovers. I checked the thermostat on the air intake and all is well. Any ideas? Thank you again for the help.

      Cheers








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        1983 245 dl Loses power after warming up. 200 1983

        Check for vacuum leaks, clean the throttle body, and check the accordian hose between the AMM and throttle body for leaks. Take it off and hold it up to the light and look from inside to outside and check for holes.
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        Bruce S. near D.C.








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          1983 245 dl Loses power after warming up. 200 1983

          often overlooked is spark,

          check plugs

          check the wires as well - as they don't last forever
          --
          '89 240 All original xcept. exhaust, 25/25 sways, guages, slight airbox mod, fogs, custom sound.







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