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Continued Auto Tranny Issues 200 1983

posted by  VolvoKurt on  Fri Dec 29 03:12 CST 2006
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Well, I need an RSS feed for any info here on auto trannies for a 1983 GL.

My son's car had a failing kick-down cable; we patched it together for a bit, but it failed completely. We then couldn't even get car into overdrive, and spent bucks to replace the OD solenoid. Then the shift speeds for all speeds were too high, and we theorized that it was the now terminally ill kickdown cable. We found a used one, and had a tranny shop put it in. While waiting to get the car to the shop, and limping around on the dying kickdown cable, the car started blowing the OD fuse in the fuse box. The tranny place diagnosed a failed or failing OD relay as probable cause of blowing the fuse, and used part is on order from someone on eBay. I should note that the shop that replaced the solenoid also said the OD relay was failing, so this wasn't a great surprise.

Wednesday, we picked the car up with the newly acquired used kickdown cable installed; car went through 1st, 2nd, 3rd just fine. Thursday, car worked fine. Today, it is misty outside and the tranny won't go into 2nd gear. Transmission shop theorizes that something in the throttle body to which the kickdown attaches may be sticking; or when they took off the pan for the tranny and put in new fluid as a result, something may have washed out and is now sticking. I think that's what he said. He suggested just kicking the accellerator pedal down firmly while car is off, or at least not in car, to see if that loosens anything up. Does anyone have other suggestions of what would prevent an auto tranny from upshifting given this tortured history?

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    Continued Auto Tranny Issues 200 1983

    posted by  HillBilly on  Fri Dec 29 03:43 CST 2006
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    Open the hood and see if you can manually pull the kick-down cable out and let it re-tract by itself. It should move in and out without any snagging or rough spots.
    Why would you pay a transmission shop to install a used cable? You can buy a new one for around $30.
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      Continued Auto Tranny Issues 200 1983

      posted by  someone claiming to be Kyle240 on  Fri Dec 29 05:38 CST 2006 [RELATED]

      KD cable:

      Yes, a new cable sounds better over the medium of written words. Used ones are usually pretty well cooked where they pass by the exhaust header, allowing moisture to collect through a leaky sheath.

      There are many pitfalls installing them too; kinks, broken retainer fingers and so forth. A test as you suggest should quickly identify the cable problem.

      Fuse:

      The relay is unlikely to cause the fuse to blow. More likely is a bare spot on the solenoid wire under the car. Now, if the fuse has been increased in amperage, the relay could suffer when that bare wire shorts out.

      Both of these problems would be related to the transmission service.

      -K








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        Continued Auto Tranny Issues 200 1983

        posted by  VolvoKurt on  Fri Dec 29 07:56 CST 2006
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        We got one used because it was available, in town, and it was Dec 22.

        The service has been done in two shops; one where my son attends school, one here. The shop here examined the work on the solenoid by the other shop and didn't report a problem, and only found the relay as a possible problem when tracing for electrical issues (for which they kindly didn't charge). We are using the specified 15 amp fuse, and haven't boosted its size to avoid blowing the fuse. We really don't want to burn the car up, at least not accidentally.

        We'll try testing the kick down cable to see if it is hanging up, and other things. If necessary, I'll have yet another shop check the wiring at the solenoid if the problem recurs. In the meantime, I remain open to suggestions, but would prefer not being second-guessed when trying to patch this thing together quickly for a son on a limited budget.
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