Hey Bruce,

I inherited a '91 240 B230F. It's not running, seems to be, from preliminary investigation, a fuel pump/pressure issue. It's a LH 2.2 System. So, there are two pumps, just like an other 2.2 System ?

I have a spare sender from a LH 2.2 and a spare boot pump from the '86 B230FT that is RIP for parts out in the driveway. I have all sorts of spare relays, a spare 016 AMM, polished spare TB in case I do have an issue with something other than the pumps, I am ready to deal with it.

The car is in really nice shape and doesn't have a spot of rust anywhere, inside, outside, underneath, does have a loose door handle, blah blah - little mechanical things that are secondary at this point.

You have the 240 with Ford motor in it and the wheels you have on your 240 are the same wheels I want to put onto my 240 sedan.

The wheels I have and I want to pout into my 240 are off of my '86 B230FT Wagon and they are 15".
Are yours 15" too ?
Do they fit right on and don't scrape etc ?
If so, how does this effect the speedo ?
What do I need to correct ?

Do I have to crawl into the trunk to get a the fuel sender ?
Anything eles I dshould know about the 240 that seems to be a common point of failure with the 240s ?

Oh yeah, it is a Auto trans, think an AW71 ? Does this sound right to you ?

It's been really snowy and frezzing out and I have also been laid up after surgery so I can not and have not been out rolling around inside and outside of the 240.

Thanks in advance,

Cousin John


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'92 740 B230F Wagon::'92 B230F 240::'86 B230FT Wagon (RIP-Parts Car):'83 320I::'79 320I::'81 320I::'74 2002::'70 Torino GT Convertible(351C)::1970 Dodge Dart GT 340::'70 Monte Carlo::1979 Dodge Tradesman B300 Custom(360)::'84 SAAB 900S::2004 Dodge Dakota

Thanks you guys and sorry for asking so many questions. I have been on my back recovering from sort of heavy duty abdominal surgery so getting more info about the 240 at this time is about the highlight of my existence.

I willl use all of the information you have provided to me once I can move around again, hopefully within the next week or so.

Cousin John
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'92 740 B230F Wagon::'91 B230F 240::'86 B230FT Wagon (RIP-Parts Car):'83 320I::'79 320I::'81 320I::'74 2002::'70 Torino GT Convertible(351C)::1970 Dodge Dart GT 340::'70 Monte Carlo::1979 Dodge Tradesman B300 Custom(360)::'84 SAAB 900S::2004 Dodge Dakota

John,get well soon,rest up, sounds like a project,
But a good one.
Cross a 240 sedan with Virgo's and you get stock
Virgo/Turbo tire size 195-60-15.
Check tire rack for information,prices and ratings.
Ken
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69-145-S ; 71-145-S ; 72-145-E ; 72-1800-ES ; 87-245-DL

Hey Kenny,

The 190 60 R15's are the tires that are on those Virgo Rims now, they came off of the '86 Wagon before it went into retirement. The tires have about 10K on them, so I don't want to see them go to waste.

The rims and the tires are really nice, so I wanted to use them on the 1992 740 Waqon I bought for 500 and is the daily runner now. The problem is that the Virgos don't clear the calipers on the front of the 1992, so I only have them on the back of the 1992 and steel rims with wheel covers on the front.

Then........I got the '91 240 Sedan, saw the picture of Bruce's 240 with the Virgos on it and I liked the way his looked. I want to take the two Virgos off the rear of the 1992 Wagon and the other two Virgos off the 1986 and put the 4 of them onto the 240 Sedan. When my god damn guts heal up, I will swap the rims to the 240 and start doing the little pieces of work that need to be done to return the 240 into service for either a keeper, a trade or a sale.

I really like that 240 - I was sad to see her go the first time. The girl I helped out by letting her pay for the 240 car with payments when she was hurting for money gave the 240 back to me for free cause she knew I was sad to see the car go. I know that this car isn't quite as pimped out as your Redwood Chair wagon but, you know as well as I do, this shit takes years to get right bro'...

Cousin John


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'92 740 B230F Wagon::'92 B230F 240::'86 B230FT Wagon (RIP-Parts Car):'83 320I::'79 320I::'81 320I::'74 2002::'70 Torino GT Convertible(351C)::1970 Dodge Dart GT 340::'70 Monte Carlo::1979 Dodge Tradesman B300 Custom(360)::'84 SAAB 900S::2004 Dodge Dakota

John,

I think you are overdue for a Bentley 240 manual. Troll online for bargains on new and used.
But here goes...

• Your '91 should have LH2.4 (not 2.2) unless there's a difference with Canadian 240's.
• Two pumps like 2.2 but not interchangeable with 2.4 pumps (running pressure is higher).
• Tank senders may be the same (check FCP's listings). Access from trunk.
• The V8 is gone now. Wheels are called "Virgos", 15" OE on '81-'85 240 turbos. Can't say about speedo correction, but minimal error Id guess.
• Tranny is probably an AW 70
• Infamous 240 LH 25A blade fuse replaced by fuse 6 on your car.
• Same fuel relay as 700/900 cars, including Regina.
• 700/900 FAC is a good resource for LH2.4 and EZ-116K ignition (just different relay & fuse locations).

With a Bentley you'd answer most of your "new to 240" questions in minutes. It's very well organized and illustrated.

Welcome to the world of "The True Brick".

Bruce

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Bruce Young
'93 940-NA (current), 240s (one V8), 140s, 122s, since '63.

Another Bruce here.

Sorry you're laid up for now. Good that you're able to get on the web.

For a no-start car, you probably ought to check things out step by step. Check the state of tune up (and look inside distrib. cap). Go over the fuses; twirl them in the holders to cut through the corrosion. If they are the gray/white metal type (rapid-corrosion) consider replacing them all with copper/brass.

Anyway, failure of the in-tank pump won't usually shut you down. Main pump will work harder to suck the fuel out of tank but car will generally run. Especially if tank is not low. But the extra strain probably causes a shortened lifespan for the main pump, so replace the in-tank stuff if it's not working. More on that further down here.

Bruce/lucid will likely repost the fuse #s to jump to test if the relay is your problem - and other details. On my '89 it's fuse #4 + #6 - jump the left sides of those two fuse holder terminals and the pumps will run. Or you can go ahead and swap in a known good fuel pump relay and see if that does the trick. Check at fcpgroton.com to see which year cars used the same relay. I think the '86 parts car relay is the same but check first.

'89 and later have a crank position sensor (aka rpm sensor) on rear of engine, approx where head meets block. These go bad over time - usually it's the wires that go bad. It's a shielded cable a lot like TV coax; when the sheathing is compromised there's no stable signal to the computer and it cuts off fuel + ignition. The cps cable runs across firewall to a connector; if you see a yellow label then it's the original and should be replaced. If you stand at passenger fender and peer behind head with a flashlight you can barely see the wire going down onto the sensor location. If wire looks frayed or compromised then replace it - sensor comes complete with wire, one unit.

Fuel tank work - you access pump + fuel level sender from top of tank. For sedan, go to top shelf in trunk, pull up carpet, remove access cover plate (2 screws). Top of tank is below that. For wagons, remove plywood carpeted cargo floor panel. Lift rear part, find one screw on each side. Drop rear seat back, unscrew floor's piano hinge; about 6 screws. Pull floor out of the way to get at access panel, top of tank is below that.

Tank has what looks like a top cap which has terminals + connectors for fuel and electrical going in and out of tank. It usually is a rusty mess by the time it needs service. The actual level sender and pump were working on the two I repaired, it was the ruined connections at top of tank that caused pump and fuel level sender to stop working.

What looks like a top cap with terminals is actually the top of the fuel gauge level sender. It's all one unit: cover cap, sender, fuel line connections, wire leads for pump and sender. Pump is attached to this assembly. So to replace the rotten terminals you replace the fuel level sender. They do a good job of plating the thing; after 10-15 years of cold fuel running through warm connectors the condensation rusts it away.

If you do in-tank work yourself I strongly recommend the IPD tool for the infamous bung nut. I bit the bullet and paid $40 with rush shipping and don't regret a penny of it. Nut removes and reattaches easily as many times as you want.
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Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns. Wifemobile '89 245 NA stock. 90 244 NA spare, runs.

Virgos or other alloy wheels will fit most 240s fine.
However if your car has ABS then I believe some wheels won't clear the extra hardware that you have.

Overall diameter of tire determines whether it changes your speedometer/odometer readings.

Wheel size determines rim diameter and flange width.
Tire size must fit the rim and be OK for the flange width BUT only the complete tire size (3 #s) determines the overall diameter of tire. I have 15" rims on my wagon and use 205/65-15. 205 fits OK but I personally wouldn't want to go wider.

Check your passenger door for label giving tire sizes. Sedans take a different size from wagons.

Use either of these tire size calculators to check alternate tire sizes.
http://www.wickedbodies.net/Tire-Size-Calculator.htm
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

The wickedbodies calculator will take "R" or even a blank for the middle tire size number - which you'll need if yours is a wagon.
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Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns. Wifemobile '89 245 NA stock. 90 244 NA spare, runs.

C.J.F.S.,

Have you checked out the 25A fuse holder that all the 240 owners talk about getting corroded? It's supposed be located under the hood along one of the inner fender panels.

Somewhere around 91-92 they moved that fuse to the main fuse panel by driver's left ankle. If still in the old location, its rearward from battery on the fender wall. Worth a look.
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Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns. Wifemobile '89 245 NA stock. 90 244 NA spare, runs.