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New Stuff 200 1988

Does the Air Conditioning in the 1988 240 DL run on FREON or the NEW STUFF?
If it runs on freon, then I guess it needs to be converted to the new stuff.
If it runs on the new stuff, then it probably (I hope) just needs to be recharged.

What year did ACs in Volvo cars for U.S. switch over to the new stuff?

What is the new stuff?

THANKS

BTW: I've never had a car with a functioning AC, so I am pretty ignorant about AC in cars.








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    New Stuff 200 1988

    Unfortunately, your system runs on R12, the "old stuff". You could still get it recharged with R12 at a shop, as long as your system is in good shape with no leaks. R12 is just kind of expensive, but not as expensive as a conversion. You must go to a shop to have to charged with R12 because you cannot legally obtain it unless you are licensed by the EPA.

    A conversion is a big deal. You cannot just empty and recharge the system - you'll destroy it very fast due to the incompatibility of old stuff and new stuff (R134a). To convert, you have to evacuate the system using an electric vacuum pump and replace the receiver-dryer at a minimum. If there is a way to drain the old oil out of the compressor, you'll want to do that too. You'll need to buy a manifold gauge set for around $50-100. Before you do anything, you have to make sure that there are no leaks in the system (and it probably has some, since that is why A/C's ultimately stop blowing cold - all the refrigerant leaks out).

    A/C systems are kind of temperamental, require special tools, and are easily messed up by the novice (don't ask me how I know), and unless you are willing to put in the time to learn how they work, and how to find and fix leaks, you are better off taking the car to a mechanic. If want you teach yourself how to work on your A/C, I recommend the Haynes manual on automotive air conditioning.

    -John








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      I agree 200 1988

      I've been driving 240 wagons since Jan. '95. Many many hundreds of thousands of miles, because I had my own business in '95 and went on regular road trips - and then later worked for others with commutes between 50-80 miles each way.

      On my first 240 I paid handsomely to keep the AC working. It quit again in summer of '02 and I've been AC-less ever since. I just can't see spending $800 or more to upgrade to the new stuff. We have some very good independent Volvo shops in my area (CT) and I could get it done right but I'm just not willing to spend the money.

      OTOH if you live in the southern US you'll likely find AC specialists everywhere. You can get the kit from fcpgroton.com (if you're new here, they're about as good a parts supplier as one could find anywhere) and get somebody local to do the install. Just make sure they like Volvos and understand that you care about the car - because otherwise they probably won't see any sense in spending time and money on a car with essentially no book value.

      Just know that the ac ports that you need are at the rear of the ac pump, on the underside of it's tail end. About as inconvenient a place as you might want. But what do you expect from a northern Scandanavian car maker? Their heaters are first rate.
      --
      Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns, tach, small clock. Wifemobile '89 245 NA stock. 90 244 NA spare, runs.








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    New Stuff 200 1988

    So in R12 still available, or do I have to convert to R134a?








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      New Stuff 200 1988

      Like the others said your 1988 originally was issued with R12. And R12 is still available but expect to pay $50, no probably more now, for a 1 lb can. Folks on ebay still sell single cans of R12 they have laying around, but you have to have a certification to buy it or sign a waiver that you only intend to sell it and not use it if you are uncertified in auto air conditioning. A full service air conditioning shop will recharge your system regardless - after they fix the leak.








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    New Stuff 200 1988

    I assume you'refering to R12 and R134a, both of which have been sold by DuPont under the Freon trademark.
    '88 is R12; I believe Volvo switched to R134a in '91.








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      New Stuff 200 1988

      mcduck:

      Volvo, as required by law, switched to R-134A in 1993, the last year the 240 was built.
      92 and earlier was all R-12.

      jorrell
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      92 245 250K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!







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