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230ft swap to 230 700

hey
i have blown my turbo engine, bottom end. guess i could figure a new crank etc etc etc
but i got a 1987 gl 230f engine in my shop
also the computer and wiring for it
any ideas which is least expensive way to go
i will put my 88 760t back on the road
but i would like to sell them both and get a...
thanks for any input on this 1986 turbo swap for the non turbo engine








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    so as not to scare off buyers... 700

    I'd try and keep it all NA or all Turbo.

    Can you pull the head from the FT and remount on the good NA bottom end?
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    Jonathan Knauer - 94 945Ti - fun!








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    230ft swap to 230 700

    Can be done, has been done, either way. You can turbo the NA motor, technically reliability would be compromised some, but hey. You can un-turbo the car and use the NA motor, I think you can use the turbo harness and such and get away with it, there isn't much difference between the two really, and it's been done as well with no dramatically ill effects. Just depends on what your goal is exactly.








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      230ft swap to 230 700

      thanks

      i have the block from the 230 (head as well?) that i thought i would put in the ft and use exhaust with turbo and turn the boost way down to sell it

      might that be a good way to go?








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        230ft swap to 230 700

        It'd work, have to rig a feed and drain for the turbo. 8lbs is stock boost, if you use good fuel and such it'd hold that for a good while, but turning it down might be a safe thing to do. If you plan to sell it, I'd just stick a NA motor in it, for the trouble of plumbing the turbo.








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          230ft swap to 230 700

          so a n/a motor is a straight swap
          what about the amm etc
          also the 230 has a auto gearbox, is this easy to fit, guess there is a (kick-down) cabel where throttle linkage is and also some under dash vac business?
          thanks








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            230ft swap to 230 700

            All the turbo stuff will work on the NA motor, interestingly enough, without any dramatic ill effects I've been told several times. Note the turbo injectors have a resistor module, if your turbo motor harness is good I think I'd use it and the turbo injectors. There are other pretty small differences, but from my looking over the wiring diagrams awhile ago I think it'd be pretty easy. Or, you could swap everything from the NA car, it's not that hard. You would need the ignition harness and module as well, they are different, but not dramatically as far as the wiring goes. From my notes on the possible swap one could re-pin either harness and plug in the respective control modules, looking at the diagram.

            The trans will bolt up fine, there is a kickdown and/or line pressure cable that needs to be fitted, should be a bracket on the intake or throttle body, I don't recall if they used a vacuum modulator or not. If your turbo car is a stick it'll swap fine too. And be much preferable. I dislike autos.

            Under dash vac is mostly for cruise control and a lone somewhere in there to feed the vacuum tank for the heat and air controls. There is a line to the boost gauge, but that's trivial. Seems like there is a boost limiting solenoid too, but I might be thinking about Saabs.

            All in all either way you go I don't think will be too bad. If you stick the turbo stuff on the NA motor I think it'd be ok. Be conservative with timing, use good gas, watch the boost. The higher compression and weaker pistons are not a good combo for boost, let it knock much and it could crack one. But they are all very durable motors, people turbo non-turbo volvos all the time.
            Are you gonna get it running and sell it or keep it?

            I've put a fair bit of thought into this swap, I'm not crazy about turbos in general for daily use, and there is a bit more power to be had in the NA motor, not turbo level, but close, and with a more traditionally pleasant powerband.
            But that's just my opinion.








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              230ft swap to 230 700

              thanks wolf walker
              guess i still don't understand exactly, i am hoping to replace the block that the piston went through the side of. seem easiest to move manifolds aside etc, after fitting oil lines, place new block turn boost down, and as you say, use best gas, and be easy on it.
              is that all you reckon
              i am unfortunately thinking of selling it, it is in great (i bought it from a guy who had some ferraris, it was his wife's) shape, better than my 88 760 wagon but i am finding less use for them these days
              as per last post, you think the NA block would take lower pressure which is fine
              is there more anyone has to say, has anyone tried this with success
              i am feeling confident about trying this,
              thanks again
              al








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                230ft swap to 230 700

                Yeah, the kids on turbobricks stick turbos on most everything from Volvo.
                The only physical issues using the NA longblock are the turbo oil feed and drain are not tapped on the NA block. There are several ways to do that, not too hard.
                Personally, I'd turn the boost down to about 6psi and call it good. Depending on the buyer I might discus this with them to one degree or another. If it's a housewife, it'll be fine, if it's a kid with sweaty hands and a boost controller, you need to inform them. :)









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