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Sensors under manifold and a mystery plug?!? 700

I just ran the codes on my 91 745 today and came up with: Temp control sensor, O2 sensor & MAP pressure sensor. At lunch today i was checking around the engine to see where they are and noticed 2 sensors mounted beneath the intake manifold. Both looked to be connected by a black wire then going to a plug near the front of the block. The plug has nothing going to it so i looked all around for a loose plug and could find nothing. Anyone know which sensors these are and what plugs into this plug? I'm wondering if whatever it is that is unplugged may be causing my engine codes. Please see pics. Thanks in advance!
Greg

Sensor 1: sensor 1


Sensor 2:
sensor 2

Mystery plug:
mystery plug
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91 745 & 85 244 GL








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    Sensors under manifold and a mystery plug?!? 700

    OK, I know I posted a response to this last night... or maybe I closed the window.

    Anyway:
    Top photo is a late-model 740 EGR temp sensor - it's in the EGR valve body.
    Middle photo is an earlier-model EGR temp sensor - in the EGR intake(?) tube.
    The two different sensors have different threads and opposite functions - one has resistance that goes up with temp, one the opposite.

    I think the bottom photo is next to the IAC... is it?
    I also think that looks a lot like the connector for the late-model EGR temp sensor. There is a distinct pair of twined wires for it and the plug looks correct too. You can see the wire in the bottom left of the bottom picture matches the wire connected to the sensor in the top picture.

    Has someone swapped out your ECU? Someone (cough, cough, Kruse-Lucas on Tully Ave in Modesto cough) put a 92 ECU in my car and swapped out the temp type to match it. I know this because the sensor went bad and I had to replace it and had to figure it out. A few sensor exchanges in the mail led me to find out the newer style one was worth like 350$ new from the dealer and not available in aftermarket.
    If you have an older model ECU and want to sell your newer sensor I'll give you my old (read: broken) sensor for a plug. For free, I think shipping was like two dollars. And it can be sent "general delivery" to your nearest post office if you're concerned about giving out addresses.

    Good luck,
    Will

    PS: one of those sensors is non-functional and just acting as a plug.


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    1990 740 Turbo, on its way to stock specs, maybe beyond








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      Sensors under manifold and a mystery plug?!? 700

      Thanks for the help! As far as i know everything is OG on my car. It was bought in Germany by someone in the military and brought over here so i'm not sure if some things are different. I know if has the Rex/Regina system and every option except cruise control. It'd be nice to see some good engine pics to compare mine to or even another car like mine but there just aren't too many around where i live. (not even in salvage yards)

      The reason i was asking about the sensors is because i need to replace the Temp Control Sensor but i still haven't found where it's located. I have an old Chiltons manual for 240's but it doesn't show this sensor or maybe they call it something totally different. I looked all around the engine compartment Sunday and still couldn't locate that sensor... i have a replacement already so, If anyone can tell me where it's at before the weekend that would be awesome!!

      Merry Christmas!!
      ghop
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      91 745 & 85 244 GL








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    Sensors under manifold and a mystery plug?!? 700

    Hey Greg,


    I am pretty sure that the first photo is of the EGR temperature sensor. The second photo appears to be related to the EGR system, but I am not sure what it is. Perhaps someone with more experience will be able to help. Not totally sure about the third either. There are two temperature sensors for the engine beneath the intake manifold. The one closest to the front of the car is for the temp gauge, and the second one closer to the firewall is for the fuel injection and ignition. Maybe this is the one that's unplugged in the third photo? The MAP sensor is located on the drivers' side strut brace and is fastened down with a couple of screws. It has a vacuum hose that exits from its underside and connects to the intake manifold. Its a hard plastic hose with rubber ends. They often crack and fail with age. The oxygen sensor is just in front of or on the catalytic converter. You car appears to be equipped with the Regina injection system, so the oxygen sensor is special and a 'universal' one cannot be used in its place, as its electrically incompatible. Check out the FAQ about the engine sensors, this link takes you to the section regarding the EGR system.

    http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineSensors.htm#EGRValve

    Regards, Jon 'Uncle Olaf'







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