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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130



So.. I have removed my radiator for repair or replacement now.

When I drained it, it was apperent it hadn't been drained or flushed in ages. It was some very brown murky water stuff... not good.

So... I am wondering whether it is possible to attach a hose to one tube which attaches to the radiator and run water through the engine block to clear out any remaining gunk? It seems like it would be a waste to get the replacement or fixed radiator fixed and flushed, only to put it back on and have the stuff left remaining in the engine flow through it and plug up some of the regained flow channels... Am I making any sense here?

Thanks for any input or ideas on this...








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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130

You should have flushed it out BEFORE pulling the radiator out & getting it fixed.

I'd put your radiator back in, run it for ten miles, replace the water, run it for ten miles, replace the water, etc, until it's clear, then backflush the radiator & fill with coolant.

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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130


The main issue is that the engine can silt up on the back cylinders. If you take off the rop and bottom hoses, take out the thermostat and attach a garden hose to the the barb on the block drain. Turn the tap up and the crud will come out.

On the other hand if you want to clean up crude, you need to speak to BP.








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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130

Just take out the thermostat and start pouring water through the system. Of course, you will not get "ALL" of it, but enough to make yourself feel better.

Remember to get a gallon of distilled water when you add the new antifreeze.

Klaus
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a very elegant approach 120-130

This may work for an engine block, as I have done this with domestic heat cast iron radiators, not only to clean them but to add "stop leak" to small leaks in an otherwise un-repairable and very expensive unit.

Important-remember to take your heater core out of the loop by just jumping across the two ports on the block with a length of hose.

First you'd need a electric 110v circulator motor from a hot water boiler with it's pump and 2 pipe flanges attached, examples are a B&G 100 or a Taco 007. These are pretty common. You'd then adapt a fitting that accommodates a garden hose thread on one side and a pipe thread on the other. Let's say you use 2 clothes washer hoses from there, then you'll have to determine a way to cleverly attach one of each of these to the inlet and outlet on the block.
( "Fernco" fittings are one way to go, available at a plumbing supply house or Home Depot.) Which goes where will be determined by the pumps direction of flow, usually cast into the pump itself.

Elevate the pump and attach the inlet hose. Then fill the block with your cleaning solution until water runs out of the block end of the other hose, then attach that to the inlet on the block. Assuming you've already figured to add a cord set to the circulator motor, just plug it in and it will gently circulate the water through the block indefinitely, quietly and w/o making the local newspaper.

After it's run for whatever period you determine to be enough, replace the cleaning solution with plain water for a good rinse.

Now that's the basic plan. If you'd like to embellish on this, elevate the pump and place the inlet hose in a 5 gallon pail of water, then direct the discharge from the block into that pail. You'll need to prime the pump to get it started. You can heat the water in the pail with a roofing torch, propane torch etc. or place the pail (steel presumably) it on a single burner stove, like a propane turkey fryer, for a more control. Use a thermometer to keep the water to 180 degrees or just don't let it boil.

Further if you want to add some pressure use a 4 way pipe fitting in the line at the outlet flange of the circulator. The hose goes on one of the 3 remaining ports, a tire valve stem on another and optionally a plug, or a fitting you can place an a/c style thermometer in, or a gauge to monitor the pressure, in the last. When I've done this, through the valve stem, I can add a small amount of pressure (keep it under 10 lbs for sure, maybe lower). With a domestic radiator I don't need the valve stem as I heat the radiator itself with a propane roofing torch until the water reaches180 degrees and keep a loose fitting thermometer in place. The port the thermometer is in is loose enough to act as a relief to keep everything from exploding, although I have launched a thermometer about 30 feet into the air when things got a little too hot. That was pretty cool. Do not heat a closed system without providing some sort of pressure relief. This would be extremely dangerous.

Complicated I suppose, but a very elegant approach.














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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130

Probably if you drain the block it will get most of it. You can run it a short time running
a hose into the lower radiator hose. Be sure and take out the thermostat before
you do that so you will get full flow without heating up the engine.








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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130

2 long hoses from the top and bottom connections into a 50 gallon drum of water should do the trick. 2 drums if you want to keep the muck from going back in.
Should keep the neighbours amused too.








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Flushing crude out of engine with the radiator off? 120-130

I'd be sure to remove the block drain pieces and then use a wire to determine if there's a buildup of sediment around the cylinder jackets. In a worst case scenerio I cleaned out the block on my cousin's Dodge van w/318. We realized there was a problem when a couple of freeze plugs rusted through--sediment had completely surrounded the cylinders half way up the block. -- Dave







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