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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--did much already- very close!! 200 1982


Thanks for the tips so far--I did follow up on them all. BUT, the old girl still dies on every 1st Cold and now even warm starts with an accompanying poor/rough idle.

HERE'S WHAT I'VE DONE SO FAR.

1. Installed a new single wire Oxygen Sensor. Sensor's signal is trying to tell the ECU we are too lean but the ECU is not responding properly.

2. Tried an exact used replacement ECU #0 280 000 500----NO CHANGE!! Crap and all the way from LA to here in Hartford,WI "Packer Country" and no score?

3. Swapped out the little BLACK BOX # 0 280 220 005 found just below the ECU----NO CHANGE

4. Sprayed water all over all Vacuum lines & Injectors while running--no change in RPMs at idle.

5. Flame trap system working well --good flow out of trap to intake--no leaks

6. Installed a new Fuel Pressure Regulator---plus partially clamped off the fuel return line to see if the pump could crank up the pressure---it did and the idle did smooth out. Nice test but not permanently left in place. Must be running lean just like the O2 Sensor was trying to tell the ECU. Getting close!!

7. LINK to see the REBIRTH & New Paint job on the Old 82 Brick bought from an 88 yr. old lady with only 71K. If you have sound, there's music with it. http://secure.smilebox.com/ecom/openTheBox?sendevent=4d6a59774e6a51774f4456384e5467784e7a49324e44413d0d0a&sb=1

8. Installed New Plugs & a New Fuel Filter and New Temp Sensor---nothing.

9. Removed and completely cleaned the Idle Motor (works well) and Intake Valve Body and Air Mass Meter>>carefully----Nothing Changed!!

10. REMOVED CONNECTOR FROM AIR MASS METER AND IT STARTED AND DID NOT DIE AND HAD A WONDERFUL IDLE. Could this be what needs fixing?

QUESTION??? I'm thinking I need a new AMM. Do I? The Part # on the one from my 82 is 0 280 212 002 and I have one from an 86 Part # 0 280 212 007. Can I give it a try or do I need an exact match?

Thanks for any suggestions or (if you have & will sell the old AMM I may need:)--- let me know!
Bill Nelson








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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--did much already- very close!! 200 1982

Have you ever replaced or checked the injector seals ? I had a similiar problem and after much searching this was the problem...Hope this helps








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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--did much already- very close!! 200 1982

Also tried just a New AMM ---NO Change
So I guess I'm still running lean and all the changes & parts did not change anything--still looking to you guys who know more.








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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--Correct AMM? 200 1982

Also tried just a New AMM ---NO Change

Was it the correct one?

Your car takes an 001, as Chuck (porkface) noted below.
The 002 is for '83 and '84.


--
Bruce Young, '93 940-NA (current), 240s (one V8), 140s, 122s, since '63.








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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--did much already- very close!! 200 1982

Hey have you cleaned out the intake manifold?
Have you checked the air intake hose that
hooks up to the AMM, it might have cracks and
in need of repairs.








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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--did much already- very close!! 200 1982

Hello Bill:

Check for intake manifold leaks, they usually occur along the bottom edge.

And I have never been able to detect them with any kind of spray. I can however hear them easily with a piece of hose.

It's a problem that often goes undetected, the wifes 87 has one now that I will get to when I can find the time.
--
Bruce S. near D.C.








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1982 B21F Still Dies on Every 1st Cold Start--did much already- very close!! 200 1982

the 82 lh cars did not use a 002 amm. they get a 001, unless the whole car has been switched to an lh 2.0 from an 83 or 84. you could also have a bad harness. very common on any 240 from 81-87. good luck, chuck.







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