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Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

For the past couple months, I've been sorting out a '93 240 wagon which I picked up. It was a no start when I bought it, but the body was rust-free, the interior unshredded and beaucoup of new parts had been installed.

The seller had spent 6 months trying to get it to start and run predictably. During his effort he replaced the fuel pump, the ECU (yikes!), the coil, ignition wires, plugs, rotor, distributor cap, FI temp sensor and so many more things I can't recall them all.

When he showed the car to me he said, "Just watch, this time the son-of-a-bitch will probably start." It didn't. But, when he sprayed some ether into the intake air tract, it did chug a couple of times, so I felt the ignition (and hopefully the ECU) were probably kosher.

When I got it home, the first thing I did was to pull a known good FI relay from another car. Before I plugged it into the no-start wagon, I tried the suspect relay in the donor car. It started right up. I began to have visions of also spending six months of time on the car and still not have it plying the boulevards. Since I already had it in hand, I plugged the test relay into the no-start 240 and it fired right up every time I tried it. Problem solved, or was it?

While waiting for the replacement FI relay to arrive, I set about cleaning all the grounds and electrical terminals in the engine bay. When I pulled the red FI system wire from the terminal block near the battery, it came off with surprising ease, so I pinched the "legs" of the spade connector with a pair of duckbill pliers to close up the gap and increase the contact pressure. That's when one of the "legs" fell off almost as soon as I touched it.

I renewed the queefed out terminal, plugged in the original "defective" relay and went cruising, so to speak.

Once I found the bad terminal, everything the seller had told me started to make sense. He had said that the car ran like a champ - whenever it started, but it could also stall out with no forewarning and not restart. The few FI relays which have gone bad for me did not fail in an intermittent way. They all shit the bed and stayed there.

I feel very lucky. If I had a replacement relay on hand, I might have plugged it in without checking the wiring until the planets once again aligned to cause an open circuit at the weak terminal - then, who knows into what trouble-shooting Hell I would have been cast.

Rich








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    Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200 1993

    I've got a '93 240 wagon too. My car has been acting weird lately too. It sometimes fails to start...and then other times it fires right up. One of the things I've noticed is that it seems to not start ONLY if the weather is cold. Any clues? I'll check red spaded fuel red FI system wire at the terminal block near the battery to ensure the connection is solid (haven't done yet). Where's the FI relay located? What's the FI temperature sensor and where's that located? Thanks,
    Cabbie








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    Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

    Thank you for posting this story. It is part of what makes brickboard an invaluable resource for novices like myself to learn about their Volvos, and car repair in general.

    Keith








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    Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

    Just like the plumber that came to fix a problem of no hot water. Took one look at the heater, got out a screwdriver, turned a temp control screw, and gave the owner a bill for $100.

    "$100 ?? What the hell for ? For turning a screw ???? "

    "No, ma'am. $1 for turning the screw; $99 for knowing which screw to turn."









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    Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

    Good info. I don't think I would tell the original owner that a 15 cent spade lug fixed the car.


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      Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

      Tony,

      It wasn't THAT cheap to fix - I used an industrial grade T&B terminal which cost about 21 cents.

      The seller gave me explicit instructions that he NEVER wanted to hear about that car again.

      This is a good example of how a throw-parts-at-it mentality will bite you in the ass every time. It leads me to wonder how many times perfectly good ECU's have been trashed.

      Rich








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        21 cents.. OUCH! : )
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    Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

    One question. Did the junction block on the inside of the driver side fender have it's black plastic cover in place? The reason I ask is that I have not seen that failure on one with a cover in place... in the South, I suspect the salty North might be a different story!

    jorrell
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      Jorrell,

      The cover was so much in place that I had the feeling that it had never been removed before - it was tight and unscarred from a heavy hand removing it somewhere along the way. The junction block appeared so new that I felt the terminal might have been compromised at the factory only to present itself after age had taken its toll.

      The terminal did not suffer from corrosion but from metal fatigue - the "leg" broke off just as if it had been worked back and forth too many times.

      The car came from south of the Mason-Dixon line and had spent many years in sunny California.

      Rich








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        I suspect that it was stress corrosion cracking, not fatigue.
        If the car was ever parked in a barn or barnyard (near manure) I would call it "season cracking".
        (an old term for ammonia stress cracking of brass because when it warms up the ammonia is released).
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        George Downs Bartlesville, Oklahoma








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          Heads Up - Elusive FI Fault 200

          $.21 worth of parts PLUS $100 diagnostic fee, $150 per hour labor costs, plus whatever else. You earned this one for sure!!

          Bob







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