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spark plug recommendations after a hasty purchase 200 1991

Purchased what I thought was the regular Bosch plugs (WR7DC) that I have used for years but mistakenly ordered the Bosch Super Plus (WR7DC+). I was surprised that there are a lot of good aftermarket parts sites that don't even carry the WR7DC anymore. Should I go ahead and install the Bosch Super Plus or search for the regular Bosch plugs and install them? If the later, who carries them now?

Thanks,
George








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    The Bosch Super+ is the exact OEM replacement plug for the Volvo copper plugs.
    The Bosch Super are not. Neither is the NGK.

    Place both side by side, and you'll see that the Super+ and OEM Volvo plug lower electrode is larger diameter and wider than the Bosch Super (or NGK).

    That is why the Volvo plugs last longer and gives more consistent spark discharge. For years the only way to get them was at the dealer, but sometime around ~2000 Bosch put it in their catalog as a Bosch Super OEM designation, and within the past few years it's called Super+.
    Bosch prices them higher ($2.89 ea) than Volvo plugs, so there's really no reason why you shouldn't be using Volvo plugs, which I paid $8.50 for set not too long ago.








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      spark plug recommendations after a hasty purchase 200 1991

      Thank you to all for your input. Looking back over the posts, no wonder there is such confusion over something as simple as a spark plug. Plenty of smart people have posted here to help me out. Thanks!








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    Thank you all for your recommendations. I bought the NGK BPR6ES at O'reilly to ensure simple ole copper plugs. Could not find the regular copper Bosch and the comments on the downturn in quality has reinforced all of our healthy suspicions about the brands we have used for years that now say "made in ___________"

    George








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      Good choice George. Gap them to .028, and a bit of Never-Seeze on the threads. The crush washers on the NGK are substantial, and they'll go "firm" for nearly a half-turn, and then suddenly tighten. Don't be alarmed by that characteristic is all.
      Rhys








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    I've been using the NGK's but would like to switch to a US made plug in the future. Not sure but think that might be ACdelco or Champion.








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      For the last few years many NGK plugs are made in the US. Delco plugs are good, but I wouldn't use Champion in a lawnmower.








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    I believe they are the same plug just renamed. As long as it is a solid copper plug you are good to go.
    Dan








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      Dan,

      My confusion was over the copper core.

      What does "Super Plus" mean in terms of copper core? The packaging says "50% longer lasting than OE copper plugs. Premium Copper core plus Yttrium." On the other side, the package reads "Yttrium enhanced center electrode technology extends performance life over conventional copper core spark plugs."

      Looks like a marketing thing to me. What the heck is Yttrium, anyway?

      George








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        It is another Bosch special recipe, which has some sound engineering theory. With that said, there is an underlying energy to promote marketing.

        I have been reading up on the theory on transistors, which are semiconductors. In those, they used rare earth chemical elements to make them perform differently for special purposes. They dope them with actually impurities.

        Yttrium is a substance found mixed in with other intrinsic conducting elements. This is a byproduct of getting to the other elements used as impurities.
        Fluoride is a byproduct of making aluminum ingredients. Some say it is poisonous but it is in drinking water.

        As best I can figure they not after a better conducting quality core but one that has a tighter bond within itself. In other words it is more dense than copper and therefore MAY resist breakdown like the copper it is mixed into.

        According to the dictionary, it has a higher melting point and atomic number than copper. It will displace a certain amount of the copper in the recipe. It should be harder or some quality to resist something, IMO. Just do not ask me what and how much I will pay to care!

        Platinum is higher in numbers than the yttrium. Platinum is probably more expensive. Is that going to make the copper plus plugs cheaper than the platinum plugs or is it a gimmick to raise price of the copper plugs and fill the platinum sales hole?
        I have tried the platinum plugs. I have lost some confidence in them some time ago. It happened when I saw the pin sized platinum electrode disappear down inside the insulator. There was not much of it to begin with.

        I do not know the price of the two elements since it is more rare than copper, I do not see them trying to save on the price of copper as much as it has gone up.

        If they can advertise and enhance the idea that it is better, then the content they put in the electrode does not matter one bit. The perceived idea will make them money!

        Maybe platinum sales have slumped. Like car tires, it is time to change the tread pattern, because they can! The copper plugs have a wide base of “time in use.” They can tweak it or should I say squeeze it!

        How can you tell the difference without a direct comparison to the way you drive? It is not going to happen unless you are in to analysis and track your self with copulas notes.

        All advances are incremental, forward and backwards sometimes! Platinum may have been backwards if you talk to car enthusiast or mechanics who see this stuff daily.

        It will take us, like a grand jury to sort this out, the way platinum plugs went.
        Phil








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        George
        Marketing hype would be my guess? I have a set of each one package says the 50% longer lasting with Yttrium enhanced center core the other does not. Both plugs are marked identically.
        Dan








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    I quit buying Bosch plugs when they started making them in Thailand. I exclusively use NGK now.








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      Evan,

      Which NGK plug number do you use?

      Thanks,
      George








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        spark plug recommendations after a hasty purchase 200 1991

        Correct standard copper NGK plug for your model is BPR6ES. I have been advised by dealership tech's not to use platinum plugs in a 240.

        This plug (and its non-resistor mate BP6ES) fit many applications and are in use in our 940, both 240's, MGB, and BMW and Norton motorcycles. Good for about 25k mi in the Volvos, somewhat less in the carbureted engines.
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        Bob: son's XC70, dtr's '94-940, my 81GL, 83-DL, 89-745(V8) and 98-S90. Also 77-MGB and some old motorcycles.







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