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Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

Anyone have the resistance specs for the Bosch 016 AMM?

I have 2 AMMs that weren't working. I'm thinking if they fall within the resistance specs, they may just need cleaning.
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1980 245 Canadian B21A with SU carb but electronic ignition and M46 trans in Brampton, Ont.








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    Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

    I had a bad & dirty AMM that turned to work after simply gently cleaning it with ciruit board spay. After I put it back in the car the Code never came back and the drivability returned








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    Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

    resistance is futile-sorry, couldn't resist.

    best way to check them is on the car and a digital volt meter.

    key on, engine off-1.4v
    idle-2.3v
    4k-4.0v

    measure this at pin 3 on the amm.

    good luck, chuck.








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      Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

      Thanks. This helps on the car.

      But the way I see it, if you can purchase a re-built 016, then it is fixable. Maybe easily, otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on rebuilding. So there must be some bench tests which indicate whether it is worth fixing. Resistance readings may be the clue.
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      1980 245 Canadian B21A with SU carb but electronic ignition and M46 trans in Brampton, Ont.








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        Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

        here's the way it works. the wire gets hot. the faster the air moves, the cooler the wire. the ecu sees this and increases voltage to maintain temp. on the wire. the voltage increase then drives injector pulse higher. a resistance check will tell you if the wire is in 1 piece, dirty or not. a voltage check tells you if it's ok at specified points. you're correct to a point, a dirty wire won't measure enough and therefore demand more heat as a clean 1. good luck, chuck.








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        Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

        No, Chuck is right. The resistance readings you see in the manuals were a half-baked last-minute brain-fart idea to get something in the green manual that a tech with a multimeter could latch on to. Fact is, the low reading suggested for the hot wire doesn't even connect to the hot wire directly, but to the reference resistor instead - a super reliable part. And of course, checking the mixture pot is irrelevant to the 016.

        The only way we can do an evaluation is to run it in the car. Even the voltage checks will not verify you have a good unit - but if they're not close they'll predict a failed unit.

        Rebuild testing is done with precision flow and temperature measurements taken at many data points. I'm not sure the rebuilders (other than Bosch) have a good handle on this either, judging from our experiences reported on the Brickboard.
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        Art Benstein near Baltimore


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          Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

          Art,

          If I am understanding you, if the voltage test is off then the AMM is on its way to failure but if that checks out the AMM is of undetermined health.

          What does the car do that is specific to the AMM not working properly?
          Or how is it isolated from other problems?

          1988 244 DL
          162368 miles








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            Symptoms of AMM failure are the same as any cause of mixture being incorrect, so there is no specific fault-cure hash. That's why it behooves us to have a spare, tested AMM.
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            Art Benstein near Baltimore

            Those who jump off a Paris bridge are in Seine.








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              Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

              You can buy some AMM cleaner take it out and give the wire area a good spray.








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                Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

                "You can buy some AMM cleaner take it out and give the wire area a good spray. "

                I recommend you don't.

                Good place to put "YMMV"

                :)
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                Art Benstein near Baltimore

                Milt Famie was a pitcher for the Cubs. Unfortunately, he had a great fondness for beer. After walking several successive batters in the 9th inning, the manager of the opposing team turned to one of the batters asking what that was all about. Said the batter "It was the beer that made Milt Famie walk us."








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                  Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200



                  Agree!!

                  I turned a working AMM into a broken one using "AMM Cleaner".

                  Probably due to CRC's cleaner being not for AMM's.... it's MAF sensor cleaner. A different gadget from an AMM.

                  -Ryan
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                  Athens, Ohio
                  1987 245 DL 324k, Dog-hauler
                  1990 245 DL 142k M47, E-codes, GT Sways/Braces, Dracos, A-cam
                  1990 744GLE 189K 16-valve
                  1991 745 GL 304k








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                    Bosch 016 AMM Specs? 200

                    Probably the biggest reason I would not recommend it is that determining you have a working AMM vs a non-working AMM is not easy with Volvo unless you have units to compare. The resistance checks, as I've said many times, are useless. The voltage checks will help identify a grossly failed unit -- sometimes.

                    But symptoms tied to a dirty wire could be very difficult to isolate except by substitution. A variation of just a couple hundred millivolts will be the difference between an AMM the ECU can adjust to, and one it can't, and that voltage is in the load range, not only in still air or idle. There's no way for us to spec air mass requirement that accurately by saying "idle" or x-thousand rpm.

                    So, even though this automotive tech writer seems to know the basic theory and (Popular Mechanics plug for CRC) says "What have you got to lose" I contend you know very well what you have to lose. On the other hand, if you have one in your left hand that works, and one in your right hand that doesn't, hose down the right side. I might guess newer cars may give a better clue to AMM goodness with more accurate OBD-II diagnostics.






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                    Art Benstein near Baltimore

                    Back in the 1800's the Tate's Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California . This, of course, is the origin of the expression,..."He who has a Tate's is lost!"







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