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re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

posted by  Swedish Baklava on  Tue Jan 1 16:35 CST 2013
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Hi CB, Onkel Udo II, Tony, darkdelta, Art Benstein, Nel621, Volvodad, laharview and John Sargent

Thank you to all and you guys rock!!!

It all began three months after I got my flying brick, I saw a tiny rust spot sprung out like a crabgrass and it grew and got bigger every week. There were more spots appeared and they looked like a baklava. That's how I came up with the name "swedish baklava".


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water leaking area...


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Testing at a metal shop... Welding upside down with one hand. I had to hold my helmet with the other hand... Got cocky, almost dripped! Checked my 50ft extension cord now and then... It was very cool and my welder never got hot. I felt ready.


Disconnect the battery and I was ready to weld. That simple.... I went down to several muffler shops and spoke with welders as Tony recommended. They all said, "JUST WELD!" No gypsum board partition needed. lol.... Over the years, I was so spoiled and blinded by the google search engine. Tony, I would like to give you two thumbs up but it allowed me to give you only one thumb up. Thank you for waking me up!!!!!!!!!!


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POR15 treatment + grinding


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Applied weld thru primer


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50ft extension made it. Swapped to a 20amp receiver, checked for 12 gauge wire. Thanks Volvodad!!!


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Check 1234...


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Made a hole. Thin rusted metal area?? Maybe I hold it too long... I thought I melted the wiring above.


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Taking a break... That hole....


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Mixed the putty at 50 degree, applied at 40 degree and left for 7 days. It's not curing at all. Heating didn't help... I might have to redo it next summer.


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Can't wait any longer. Applied POR15 and ready to hit the road again. Reconnected the battery, started the car and it ran. I didn't fried or melted any wires. :)


Things I should or shouldn't have done...
1. Stuffed rust area with wheel bearing grease. Oh, boy... I was desperate.
2. Wrap the wiring with anti flammable fabric before I started to weld. I could weld more and longer beads.
3. Test a small piece of POR15 putty before I went all out since the temp was very cold.


http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1544490/220/240/260/280/re_87_245_auto_welding_floor_panoutside_set.html

http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1548666/220/240/260/280/re_87_245_auto_50_ft_extension_cord_20amp_83_question.html


Thank you all for your support and guidance!!! Everything went well as you have expected! Happy New Year 2013!







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    re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

    posted by  Adirondack Blues on  Tue Nov 22 08:33 CST 2016
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    I have repaired a few smaller holes in the floorboards and spare tire Wells on 240s without welding using Por 15 and fiberglass cloth. This type of repair is actually very strong.

    Por patch makes a good seam sealer. I found this method much easier than welding. Even rivets and a seam sealer might be easier.

    Por putty I have used to repair small holes and I have had no issues with it curing properly. Are you certain you mixed it properly?

    Kudos on the attempts to repair, those holes are big!








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      Por putty 200 1987

      posted by  Swedish Baklava on  Tue Nov 29 10:29 CST 2016
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      Hi Adirondack Blues,

      I am sorry for late reply.

      I spoke to one of their product engineer, he told that the ideal temperature is around 70. I was working way below it. It took more than 1 year to cure. I am sure that it's NOT properly cured but it seems to be OK.

      As always, thank you.








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    re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

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    posted by  Art Benstein on  Wed Jan 2 10:06 CST 2013
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    Nice work and nice photography. I'm pretty sure you will do well at anything you try. Did you do this in Brooklyn or Woodstock? Which hood did you wind up getting (prompted by the one-handed comment and my own experiences with magnifier inserts).
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      re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

      posted by  Swedish Baklava on  Wed Jan 2 11:38 CST 2013
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      Hi Art Benstein,

      Thank you for your kind words.

      This is what I got. It's a very basic Lincoln helmet, I didn't get one from HFT. I am pretty sure they both are made in China. :)

      http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202715821/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=welding+helmet&storeId=10051#.UORro3drQpI

      In the beginning, I always preferred "auto darkening" feature but I really like this big lens that gives me better view just like my Volvo.

      Try to wear one, wait for one or two minutes so that your eyes will adjust... You should be able to see and recognize few shape or form. With a torch gun, touch the welding spot and move away 1/8" inch or so. Then strike.

      I had to hold my helmet because I was laying on the floor, the strap didn't stay/hold in place and it kept falling off.

      Maybe I should have used a 2"x4" to support my neck??

      I am taking a basic low voltage DC circuitry class this winter, hopefully I can understand your diagram better. :)

      You are very talented and funny. Happy New Year!

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    re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

    posted by  Onkel Udo II on  Wed Jan 2 05:13 CST 2013
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    Your problem with the burn through was probably three-fold:

    You practiced on warmer metal and it behaves a bit different when the temps are approaching freezing...same with the welder and the wire in it.

    You did not keep the torch moving.

    The splatter-matics just do that sometimes as their output tends to be less than perfectly stable.

    Never used the putty so no help here. I have always applied "panel sealant" from the inside but we were doing fully welded panels...that takes forever.

    Looks good overall.








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      re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

      posted by  Swedish Baklava on  Wed Jan 2 11:31 CST 2013
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      Hi Onkel Udo II,

      That's good to know. I did lots of practice welding with my HFT welder as you suggested and that was very good thing. Thank you again!

      And congratulation on your new 940 wagon. It looks really nice and those bottom seats look immaculate! Turbo?

      I have a dog gate for 245, I am not sure if it fits in your wagon but please let me know if you want it. Maybe you can modify to fit...

      Shoot me an email to 87245swedishbaklava aT gEEmail do t com.

      Happy New Year!







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        re: 87 245 auto - welding rusty floor spots 200 1987

        posted by  Onkel Udo II on  Wed Jan 2 11:46 CST 2013
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        "I have a dog gate for 245, I am not sure if it fits in your wagon but please let me know if you want it. Maybe you can modify to fit..."

        Thanks for the offer, but I can wait until I find the right one.

        "And congratulation on your new 940 wagon. It looks really nice and those bottom seats look immaculate! Turbo? "

        It is nice. As with any used car, the more i drive the more little things I find to repair but it was obviously lovingly cared for. Not a turbo which for me is a plus. I wanted the gas mileage over the kick in the pants.







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