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M47 Rebuild? 200 1993

My M47 5 speed has picked up a transmission bearing noise which was not improved when I changed and overfilled the trans fluid. The noise stops when the car is in 4th gear. Guess I am looking at either a trans swap or a rebuild. I am not thrilled about putting in a used one with an uncertain past, and the only rebuild kits I could find were all over $1100 just for the parts. Does anyone know of a reasonable source for a rebuild kit? I would prefer one which includes the synchros as well as the gaskets, seals, and bearings. Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance.








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M47 Rebuild? 200 1993

More than likely input shaft bearing I had same problem on a 1987 240 sedan got quite noisy ,did not have access to many spares at time ,took tranny out fully expecting to swap in an m46 which I had,but once I got it out I got curious and took top cover off , everything looked nice so I put in a new bearing.I was able to do so without taking transmition apart,dont ask me how I do not remember but it is possible.I used that car for over another 100,000km(I have since kept all my m47 s overfilled) ,no noises.I eventually retired the car due to rust.

Good luck
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The transmission bearings in my car has been noisy for as long as I have had it (~50,000 miles) and it continues too work fine. It is not going to last forever, but changing the trans oil every other engine oil change has reduced the amount of metal in the drain oil and the noise.

Greg








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M47 Rebuild? 200 1993

riverbend,

What does your noisy M47 transmission sound like?

Does the sound vary by gear?

You change the M47 transmission oil every second engine oil change? What oil do you use?

The M47 II in my 1992 240 GL was horrifically abused. The fluid was brown and a piece of gear tooth came out in that first oil change.

I have Amsoil ATF Ford Type F, yet per vvpete (brickboard, turbobricks user), if you have a healthy M47, use the Volvo spec gear oil, not synthetic or mineral Type F. Type F may not be good for the bronze bushes (?) and synchros in the M47.

The next best bet is Redline MTL for the Volvo M47, so says vvpete.

Yet I've been told by practicing Volvo mechanics a heavier viscosity, like a single 30W motor oil, may be okay. Yet motor oil may not protect the bronze bushes and synchros.

I'm unsure.

The Amsoil synthetic Type F made all miraculously smooth shifting and a cool as a cucumber transmission on hot Summer freeways. Well, no hotter than everything else, versus the really hot M47 II before Amsoil and the Redline MTL.

Thanks,

Manual Transmission Lubricant MacDuff.
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I ♥ my ♂ manual transmission. Keep that M47 happily lubricated forever! & shift gently!
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M47 Rebuild? 200 1993

Hey MacDuff,

To answer your questions:

What does your noisy M47 transmission sound like?
Bad bearings, kind of a gritty rolling sound.

Does the sound vary by gear?
5th is the worst. 4th is good. 3rd has a little noise. 1st and 2nd who knows ? The engine is making too much noise.

You change the M47 transmission oil every second engine oil change? What oil do you use?
F type ATF. The bearings are toast, so I'm not going to pop for $$$ tranny fluid.

The M47 II in my 1992 240 GL was horrifically abused. The fluid was brown and a piece of gear tooth came out in that first oil change.
Yikes. Do you have a regular click in any gear ?

I have Amsoil ATF Ford Type F, yet per vvpete (brickboard, turbobricks user), if you have a healthy M47, use the Volvo spec gear oil, not synthetic or mineral Type F. Type F may not be good for the bronze bushes (?) and synchros in the M47. The next best bet is Redline MTL for the Volvo M47, so says vvpete. Yet I've been told by practicing Volvo mechanics a heavier viscosity, like a single 30W motor oil, may be okay. Yet motor oil may not protect the bronze bushes and synchros.
Owner's manual says F type ATF... I do think about 15W40 or straight 30 weight engine oil. Hondas used 10W30 for years in their manual transmissions and I suspect they have bronze bushings in there. The same is true with their bikes.

The Amsoil synthetic Type F made all miraculously smooth shifting and a cool as a cucumber transmission on hot Summer freeways. Well, no hotter than everything else, versus the really hot M47 II before Amsoil and the Redline MTL.
I don't know why Amsoil or Redline would run any cooler unless they are significantly cutting down the amount of power lost in the gearbox. ATF has worked for me, is cheap, available everywhere, and seems to be doing a fair job of flushing the grit out of the gearbox.

I think the big thing is to change the oil regularly and use what works for you.

Greg










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M47 Rebuild? 200 1993

Volvo Exchange.

http://www.volvooemparts.com/a/Volvo_1993_24023l-Fuel-Injected/_51529_5701426/Manual-transmission-M47/GR-53869.html


Better Deal

TASCA has them listed also....on Sale under $1000

http://stores.revolutionparts.com/tascaparts.com/oe-volvo/5003960?search_str=5003960








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M47 Rebuild? 200 1993

Thanks - Will check them out today







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