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hacking the EGR system 200 1992

Check Engine Light came on today. Car idles fine. Came up with 2-4-1 on the ignition side of the OBD. No temperature sensor that I can see in the EGR line up to the manifold. There is 12V at the connector. EGR vacuum booster checks in at 65Ω. Bentley claims the spec is 85Ω +/- 10.

Since the booster is the only electrical part in the EGR system, I suspect that it is triggering the CEL. Has any one hacked the EGR system to eliminate / substitute / repair the vacuum booster and keep the EGR system working ?

Thanks

Greg








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    hacking the EGR system 200 1992

    Hi Greg,

    The EZK-116 fault code 2-4-1 suggests a failure of the expected amount of exhaust gasses, as measured by the temp sensor.

    The meaning of the OBD socket six EZK116k ignition fault code 2-4-1 is that the EGR system flow too low.

    https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineOBDCodes.htm

    So, when the EGR system, controlled by the Bosch EZK116k so equipped with EGR, activate the EGR vacuum pump (what you call the vacuum booster) to open it, the EGR system program measures the duration of temperature rise (if equipped with an exhaust gas temp sensor) across it.

    EGR Vacuum Pump on my 1991 Volvo 240


    EGR Piping Termination at Air Intake Port (Manifold) Downstream from EGR Valve


    So, you may indeed have a faulty vacuum pump. Though that seems a rare events. (I've not heard or read of one failing. Though they may need to have the dirt and egine grime clean off them.

    More so, the white and yellow vacuum lines may not be seated. The rubber sealing ends may have deteriorated or have themselves become unseated. Verify the seating of the EGR vacuum lines.

    If you run regular mineral oil, or practice stop and go driving, without letting the engine to fully heat up ever few drives, so the oil is hot enough to boil out moisture and combustion byproducts, and the exhaust system to dry out, the EGR piping from the back of the exhaust manifold, to the EGR valve, and from the EGR valve to the air intake port (manifold) can become clogged with condensated combustion buy productions from exhaust gasses. This usually happens downstream of the EGR valve more so, yet the EGR piping can come clogged just upstream of the EGR valve and deposits grow backward through the EGR pipe back to the fitting at the back of the exhaust manifold.

    EGR Temp Sensor Location


    EGR Temp Sensor Location


    EGR Valve on Volvo 740/ 940 B230 Turbo (not my image 0 temp sensor on EGR Valve Body.)


    The pipe connection to the right of the EGR valve in this photo connects to the exhaust manifold rear. The emanating from the left side moving to the toop of the photo is the pipe that connects to the exhaust manifold.


    So, you can verify vacuum line connection, check function of the EGR vacuum pump in that it works when 12 VDC is applied (dunno what is polarity, check:

    http://www.volvowiringdiagrams.com/?dir=volvo/240%20Wiring%20Diagrams

    ... or your Bentley Volvo 240 Bible Service Manual for wiring and other detail.

    And also check that the EGR piping is not clogged. However, the first large EGR pipe can come corroded over time. And if rusted on the exterior (rust usually begins at the exhaust manifold side), take care tio remove it or have a spare in the event any of the EGR piping self-destructs on disassembly.

    The EGR Valve connects using collets that seal on the EGR pipe exterior and within the assembly hardware on compression. You may encounter 22 and 24 mm nuts at either end. I've had to clean a few EGR systems as that was the cause for their malfunction. You may be surprised the crusty mess that comes out.

    The EGR system can fail in the opposite way in that the EGR Valve fails in the open position with hot exhaust gas passing into the air intake port (manifold). It can sort of screw things up and requires an immediate fix, if removing he EGR pipe from the rear of the exhaust manifold and plugging with a quality short bolt and washer to seal against the hot exhaust gasses. And disconnection the EGR pipe at the air intake port, and sealing the hole at the air intake port.

    EGR reduces fuel economy by about 1 mile per gallon over 240s with Bosch LH-Jet 2.4 / EZK ignition. You may want to check the Minnesota state emissions controls as you may be able to remove the WEGR system, yet that may require at least a Bosch EZK 116 controller without EGR and corresponding LH-Jetronic 2.4 control module without EGR.

    http://www.nuceng.ca/bill/volvo/database/ecu.htm

    (Too bad Bill's list here does not show the EZK ignition module controllers that comes with the LH-Jetronic controllers by Bosch part number.)

    You may need to rearrange the wire harness connections at each controller to match the inputs of both controller without EGR.

    Heck, a new coolant sensor and cleaned up wire harness connections on the engine control, and all grounds, may do more to improve your fuel economy and reduce your emissions than what good the EGR does.

    Questions?

    Hope that helps you.

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      EGR Actuator, not pump 200 1991

      Not a pump. It is the EGR Actuator. A vacuum control solenoid assembly in a housing.

      Opens and closes to expose the EGR valve to intake manifold vacuum.

      Sorry.

      A failing EGR valve does not fully close when exposed to engine air intake manifold vacuum.

      Where is Mr. Walker, please?

      Fussbudget


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      hacking the EGR system 200 1992

      Hey MacDuff,

      I can't see that my car has a temp sensor in the EGR line going to the manifold. I think I can see the whole thing from the right side of the engine compartment. And there don't appear to be any wires down there. From the on-line poking around that I have been doing, it does not appear that all cars had them.

      In my mind, without that feedback the system is a simple on/off handled by the vacuum booster/controller. The ignition system doesn't have any other information on how the EGR is working (or not). It certainly does not have any information on NOX levels. So...

      The State of Minnesota doesn't officially care what I do with this car's EGR system, but changing out the ignition system to get rid of the CEL seems a bit much. Doesn't it seem odd that poorer fuel efficiency produces better exhaust emissions ?

      Greg








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        hacking the EGR system 200 1992

        Hi Greg,

        Happy Sundae! Thank you.

        So, you do not see any sort of temp sensor on the big vacuum controlled EGR valve (the last image in my response post to you not from my grey 91 240), or on the downstream pipe between the EGR Valve and where it loops up and over to seal on the air intake port?

        The vacuum pump does not have a sensor. It is a device that enhances or replaces the vacuum pull to open the EGR valve.

        Yet for there to be the fault code you indicate, well, there had to be something to cause the fault.

        I know on some 700 / 900 series with EGR, other have posted they also do not find the temperature sensor.

        I'll do a little research, yet the yunkyards here are rather RWD Volvo free.

        Oh, I see you posted again.
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        hacking the EGR system 200 1992

        After re-reading Phil's reply I see there is a wire going into the EGR valve itself. So, back to the internet and ohm meter.

        Greg








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          hacking the EGR system 200 1992

          See that last image of an EGR valve from a turbo-charged 940 (I think). The temp sensor is at the center bottom of the image here.



          The temp sensor here is on the upstream side of the valve inside the EGR valve body (center bottom of image).

          Does that help?

          It may be easy to disconnect the downstream EGR pipe at the intake port and see if it is slogged. Though it may also be good to have some spare gasket material as that cork gaskets gets brittle over time. Usually, the clogged EGR piping is most clogged there, at the EGR connection with the air intake port.

          Hop that helps.
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    hacking the EGR system 200 1992

    I don't know what you are calling a vacuum booster.

    There is a on and off vacuum valve on my '91 that is electrically controlled.

    When the ECU wants the EGR on it turns on the vacuum valve that opens the EGR.

    There is one or two sensors on the EGR depending on model and suppliers of the valve at the time.

    The sensor look for change between them or just a change in the one and ONLY one.
    This change is telling the ECU that the valve is opening. This must happen within a certain time limit or it trips a CEL.

    I have found that the vacuum valve itself get plugged up.
    It has a foam rubber filter under its round cap that rots or gets too dirty. The cap can be lifted carefully as it is lightly crimped on.
    I replace mine every five years or when I get a CEL. I use some polyester fill fiber that comes out from a well worn pillow, that my wife throws at me!
    Just kidding!

    You might want to suck a vacuum on the valve while energizing the valve. It needs to pass the vacuum. It also needs to vent the vacuum off the EGR as well. This area is the exit vent.
    If it's holding open it will idle rough in most cases, otherwise, If it's not operating correctly you won't no the difference until you get a light or a smog problem while being tested.

    Good luck with it!
    Phil







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