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Air bubble causing slight over heating after checking coolant? 200 1988

Hi there,

I have been working on this little 88 240 dl for the last two years. Rebuilt the exhaust, replaced many a gasket and seal, new timing belt, plugs,the works. Yesterday upon leaving the place I stopped to have my oil changed (just moved. Nowhere to do my own), I noticed that my temp gauge was above where it should be, and rising.. after driving maybe 10 miles, 45 degree, rainy weather, the temp gauge read about 2/3, when it's normally at .5. Now I may be over reacting, but I've been through a lot with this car.. so I want some feedback. Any thoughts are welcome. Head gasket is fine btw, so I'm thinking an air bubble made it's way into the radiator during the lube job, and that's now causing this temp reading. I'll be driving long distance (1.5 hours through mountains) for thanksgiving tomorrow.. so any and all thoughts are welcome! Thanks everyone








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    Air bubble causing slight over heating after checking coolant? 200 1988

    If you plan to open the radiator cap when the engine is hot, keep in mind that antifreeze and pressure raise the boiling point of water.

    This means that when you release the pressure, the water is above its boiling point, especially at some locations, such as in the cylinder head.

    This super hot water can flash to steam and expand something like hundreds of volume, pushing hot water out toward you.

    I have seen hot water spew 20 feet in the air when my neighbor removed the cap from a friends truck that was over heated, the blast did not hit him directly, but the rain coming down did burn his back as he ran away. The reason I saw the incident was because I was running toward him yelling for him to stop!

    Manufacturers warn you against opening the radiator when the engine is hot - with a flaky temperature gauge, the water could be super hot.

    As a firefighter, I saw about 2 dozen hot cars - we always kept them running and hosed down their radiators before shutting them off. One Dodge van was so hot it dieseled even when shut off - we had to spray C02 into the carb to shut it off.








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    Air bubble causing slight over heating after checking coolant? 200 1988

    HI,
    IMHO air bubbles are hard to keep in the system as they like to rise to the very top of the system that is the top hose, the top of the radiator and one to the coolant bottle.
    You said you checked the coolant level so air didn't jump downward from the bottle.

    You are right to suspect the temp compensation board as this is what they do.
    The car could be running warmer but the board moves in steps and the next step moves the needle abruptly and what may be considered to big of a step in reality.
    It is why we, who like to know exactly what is happening, like a gradual rise instead of stages.
    Since this car has sat a lot there could be corrosion on the pins of the board if the car sat in a high humidity outside.

    The idea of a thermostat sticking closed in the first few cycles after a long shut down is a probability.

    I believe this to be one reason to like to use 92C degree Wahler thermostats over the others. They are made of brass and copper of which brass is made of already. Compatible materials conduct evenly.
    I have used or should I say ran into Caloric brands, in my new to me, used cars and I had two of them to do the wrong thing. One stuck closed and another failed running too cool.
    The stuck closed one turned me around really quick back to the house.
    On other domestic vehicles I have had lots of trouble with Stant brand.
    I don't even like walking down an aisle and see them bubble packed hanging on hooks in the parts stores.
    They are not a device that should be exposed to the public hands!.
    I have seen so many of them laying on the shelf below the hooks, where they fell or got tossed, because people lose the place where they got it from knock the next one over off the hook.

    The next thing to look into or I should say behind in the A/C condenser and see it the current radiator is missing fins. Thet can rot loose and fall away. If nothing else look for dries grass and bugs.
    If this radiator is a high mileage and has lots of years on it it could be dirty on its insides. Plugged up tubes that reduce cross flow to the bottom is not good.
    Especially, if you are in a 45 degree air and rain water cooling environment. If you didn't have a thermostat the engine would be running at the bottom of the range or less. The bottom range is 140 degrees. So something is restricting the flow to cool.

    You could have the radiator flow tested to see if it needs mechanically cleaned. Most likely if it does not flow enough it may be cheaper to just replace it a three row unit, if it does not already have one.

    You can still pull the radiator and clear the lack of fins theory. Then find a garden hose and run full flow through it. All in one side and out the other should be about what the water pump pushes through it. Surely nothing less as a garden hose is only 5/8" to 3/4" in diameter.

    What ever you do do not flush a cars cooling system with those flush kit chemicals, with the radiator still on the car. This will only plug up the radiator used or new. The radiator shops will tell you it's the best stuff going to help them sell more radiators.

    I hope you haven't already done this?
    But then again, it might be an answer?

    Phil









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    I would find a parts store and see if they have a digital thermometer to lone you. Check the temp. at the thermostat housing. If they do not then pick up a thermometer to stick in the radiator when the temp. appears to be rising. Be very careful when popping the radiator cap so as to not get burned. Just loosen it to the safety catch first. Use a rag or towel to place over the cap.The compensating board that controls the temp. gauge is a known problem for erratic gauge readings. Please remember that you can get serious burns from the coolant. Hope this helps. Larry







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