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Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

As title states my son's 244 has been stalling and running rough at idle moreso after rain.

I've done the following:
1 - Sprayed water all over spark plug wires, coil and distributor with engine running - no visual sparks flying off anything and no change in engine running rough while being sprayed.
2 - Changed Ignition amplifier by DS headlight and battery - no stalling out either.
3 - Switched out AMM - seems a bit better but still idling rough
4 - Replaced a relatively clogged fuel filter - no change
5 - Sprayed brakleen around and found vacuum leak at EGR pipe connector to intake manifold (repair scheduled for tomorrow)

I had been reading a code (232) from socket 2 of the OBD1 reader but now a CEL from socket 6 has indicated 144 which seems to be pointing to a bad fuel injector relay or bad wiring somewhere in fuel injection system - I changed the fuel pump relay and it seems there is not much change.

If I am mistaken in thinking the fuel pump relay and the fuel injection relay are the same thing then can anyone tell me where the fuel injector relay is? Or offer any other things to try.

As always thanks!
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Bad Blue - '86 245 with 303,000 mi. (now for parts), Good Green 1990 245 with 178,000 mi., Blacky - '91 740 wagon with 180,000 mi., Mean Green - '94 850 with 222,000








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    Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

    Update no. ?

    I replaced the RPM (CPS) sensor and then spent some time repairing the bad exhaust leak on the header pipe. Well at least now we can hear just the engine running and not the exhaust!

    Unfortunately the RPM sensor replacement didn't fix the rough idle/stalling which is now more pronounced and happens during dry weather (engine runs fine as long as I have the gas pedal engaged but as soon as I let off the gas it stalls or barely idles)

    I replaced all the spark plug wires, distributor cap and ignition coil wire with know good ones but that didn't change anything.

    I looked carefully at the wires and contacts going to both the ECU and the ignition computer and there is no sign of any damage to the wires or water leakage in the area around the relay and the computers. Both computers got their connections reseated firmly.

    We still haven't got to the EGR connection to intake manifold repair but it almost seems like a bigger air leak then that.

    I think I will remove and inspect the accordion intake air hose and see if that has any holes in it.

    Thanks to anyone who is reading this. My wife is telling me I need to tell my son to get another car and give up on this but as a guy who's been living with Volvo 240s for a couple or three decades now it's pretty difficult!
    --
    Bad Blue - '86 245 with 303,000 mi. (now for parts), Good Green 1990 245 with 178,000 mi., Blacky - '91 740 wagon with 180,000 mi., Mean Green - '94 850 with 222,000








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      Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

      Hi,

      I see half way down this post that you are on the right track of thinking mixture problems.
      The throttle body is the halfway point too!

      Anything behind the AMM is subject to affecting mixture. The hose, the ports under the throttle plate, the lines leading from the flame trap upward and connections in the accordion tubes elbow.

      The switch in the throttle body has to tell the computer that you want it to idle and just ahead of time that you are stepping on the pedal to change all of that.
      The interesting note is that you are holding the throttle open some and it won’t idle substantially long? Check out the whole basis setting of the throttle body.

      Two other things I want to say is, air leak and the part about raining is two items so there’s a bit of separation.
      I know it has been hard to think about it raining or moisture when it’s an air fuel mixture problem doesn’t seem appropriate.
      Hold on to the end and maybe I’ll get there? (:)

      The intake manifold has a gasket between the head and one under the throttle body.
      Both seldom give trouble but in this case you have to keep an open mind.
      The one on the head is about as easy to change out as the throttle body, times
      four! (:)
      The EGR is supposed to only work at idle for emissions and that’s why the CEL feature.
      You could try blanking off the line from it, up to the intake, so in essence, stop an air leak.
      But, expect a CEL if the ECU does not see a temperature change because of the lack of air flow through the EGR valve.
      Just a suggestion, but A piece of cereal box cardboard can be placed under the bracket temporarily block it. Similar to a no hole gasket.

      Now with the rain thing, you have worked out the ignition issue about as well as anyone could.

      I would like to make another suggestion for checking the injector clips especially the ones on the very back cylinders. These operate on fast voltage signals to ground.
      Clean the flat prongs on the injectors themselves with a fingernail sanding board borrowed from you suggesting wife!
      Trim it down so you can lightly scrub the prongs slightly brighter.
      Inspect the fingers in the clip itself for corrosion and apply a very thin film coating of corrosion preventer. Be careful about poking them with anything thicker that the prongs so you don’t lose their tension. A good cleaner works well.

      In my old days I used TV tuner cleaner but there are better products, than WD40, out there. That stuff is just a fragrant solvent as something around kerosene and a tiny bit heavier than water. Moisture displacement (?) solvent with a lubrication value of fine filtered diesel fuel?

      Carbon tracing inside a distributor cap comes from the lightening bolt strikes going on inside there.
      Ionization of dusty air itself and possible engine oil vapors inside the distributor.
      There is also a carbon brush in the center that can flake off on top of the rotor button. No surprises?
      Individual coil placement on top of the spark plugs has been thought of as a novelty but they come with their own perils.
      Having a newer car for your son is just swapping one small can of “known worm amounts” to get another can worms of a different breed and unknown quantity!

      I’m sure you will whip this thing with all of your experience it just takes longer for us “older” owners to get it done!

      Phil









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    Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

    There's only one "fuel" relay box (the thing you change) but it has two actual relays inside it, the fuel pump relay and the system relay.

    Anyhow, speaking of that relay, make sure it doesn't collect water from a leak. Happens when someone puts it back upside down. The upside is not the side with the wires!



    And speaking of a leak, this particular one, at the wiper grommet, can get into the ignition computer (where the fuel injection relay is supposed to be clipped). But the Occam's Razor solution to ignition missing after rain is wetness inside the distributor cap.


    --
    Art Benstein near Baltimore

    Sometimes I wonder if our lives are all about the challenge of keeping gases and liquids where they belong.








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      Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

      I have replaced the fuel pump relay that you have referenced and I have been driving it for a couple of short trips with seemingly similar results but I'm hoping as the computer gets used to the new relay that I will start to see it evening out.

      I will check the distributor cap

      I am also wondering if I may have a bad injector - would that be something that would fire the 144 code?

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      2 1990 Volvo 240s - 1 is my son's sedan the other my 245 in restoration, 1 1999 S70 is my current daily driver until I can get back into the 245!








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        Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

        The relay either works or it doesn't, there's nothing for the computer to learn. If the ECU has been without power for a short period of time, it needs to relearn.

        IMHO the 1-4-4 is a serious error that you need to investigate next. That load signal really must be present for the ECU and EZK to be able to do the right thing.

        I would not suspect an injector right now. First find out why the EZK says it's missing the load signal. First thing I would do is go over the wiring between EZK and ECU. Check for corrosion. Also check the contacts inside the connectors. They might have been damaged in the past by wedging up multimeter probes in there, and that is warned against in the service manuals as it will damage them.








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          Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

          I also unplugged the EZK ignition amplifier and looked at the connectors in the plug they all looked good.

          should I look at the connectors on the ECU plug?
          --
          2 1990 Volvo 240s - 1 is my son's sedan the other my 245 in restoration, 1 1999 S70 is my current daily driver until I can get back into the 245!








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            Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

            Yes, several signals run between the two and both units depend on them.








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          Rough running worse after rain... CEL from socket 6 is 144 (somewhat a part of older 'sudden shift of oil pressure ...' 200 1990

          Ok thanks Grey245

          I had changed the distributor cap (even tho the old one didn't seem bad) and it seemed to run more stably

          came out this morning after last nights rain and no start at all - found spark at the coil, tried to spray starting fluid into the intake and still crank but no start (it tried to turn over a bit but ultimately it's not catching)

          I examined the wire from the EZK ignition amplifier to the loom near the DS suspension tower and found a small opening in the insulation that looks like it was a designed opening (odd oval hole in the black sheathing over the wires from the EZK) but the wires inside there looked solid.

          read the OBD codes and socket 2 still has the 232 code but socket six has switched to the 214 code and no 144 code anymore (no CEL came on I just checked to see if there were any codes).

          so I guess I should switch out the RPM sensor now

          This all feels a little like playing Whack-a-Mole!
          --
          2 1990 Volvo 240s - 1 is my son's sedan the other my 245 in restoration, 1 1999 S70 is my current daily driver until I can get back into the 245!







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