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89 740 tailpipe replacement 700 1989

not finding my original post today about replacing the s shaped tailpipe between the two mufflers on my 740 GLE 89 wagon. i have a replacement pipe plus two mufflers clamps but wondering if this is something that i can do. How possible is it to disconnect the piece from the two mufflers? I read about using some pipe paste for a better seal? my user name is ravenvet but for somereason i cannot submit this using my login.
any advice is appreciated.








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Getting pipes apart depends a lot on how they were put together. Many shops tighten the clamps enough to deform the pipe and that makes getting them apart without damaging the one you want to save impossible or at least extremely difficult.

Even if the pipes are not deformed many times they rust together and while penetrating fluid can work to your advantage it isn't always possible to separate two pipes. Sometimes you can use a die grinder to run a line through the outside pipe and apply penetrant along that line as well as inserting a large screwdriver and raise the outer pipe with a twisting motion. That will sometimes help release the hold of the outer pipe.

Anyway you look at it exhaust replacement can be nasty work. My experience is that when a muffler needs replaced it is worth the effort to try to save the pipes. However, if a pipe is bad chances are the other components is the system are on borrowed time.

Good luck
Randy

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I think rstarkie has answered your question pretty well. I'd just add this - if you are young, fit, have the proper tools to lift and support the car, have an oxy-acetylene torch available and don't mind wiggling around on the ground while wrestling stuck together rusty parts -- have at it. Better to make friends with a shop that has the equipment or at least find a shop with a good rep. - Dave



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YEA BEST TO HAVE IT WELDED TOGETHER,,ESPECIALLY AT THE CAT /HEADER CONNECTION SO THat leaks dont let in extra oxygen & you suffer a clogged cat like happened to my volvos several times..



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> if you are young, fit, have the proper tools to lift and support the car, have an oxy-acetylene torch available and don't mind wiggling around on the ground while wrestling stuck together rusty parts

I am old, have had three joint replacements, and work off of jack stands. I still manage to do the exhaust work on the 7 and 9 series cars on my roster.

I seldom work on individual components but I can if necessary. The starting point to be able to do that is initially replacing everything from the cat back. When assembling the system I slather the contact surfaces with anti-seize and then only tighten the clamps enough to prevent movement.

If it becomes necessary to separate the components it usually isn't too bad. A warm shower and a couple of beers usually brings my body back around from the experience.
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i am young at heart and my body is fit but sometimes sends out twangs of pain and discomfort. that said, i don't really have the tools nor the passion to do this job. i will search for a mechanic. thank you for you wisdom.
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Try to clear all the brickboard cookies in your browser as that sometimes helps. Also try another device. If not then there should be instructions on resetting your password or you can contact the admin (he may take a few days to respond).

As for your pipe, as was said, a lot depends on what type of clamps were used and how badly it's rusted. Common U-bolt clamps often make an indent that makes it much more difficult to separate, which is why I always try to use the original ring clamp style unless I need some serious clamping to prevent leaks. I use an angle grinder with a cutoff blade (not a grinding blade), cutting off the muffler clamps first. Lots of sparks, so work away from fuel vapours and have a fire extinguisher handy just in case. I then cut the pipe right through an inch or so away from the mating end -that now gives you full access, also frees the rear from moving the whole exhaust system. You can even drop the rear muffler and work on it without having to be under the car. For an inside pipe I usually start by cutting a few notches in the pipe and even trying to nick a few grooves as far into the inside as I can. I'll then take a torch (acteylene preferred, MAPP second, propane will do) and try heating the pipe as close to red as I can get it, although this step may not be needed, especially if the pipe was very rusted. Using BMF pliers, screwdrivers and chisels I then collapse the inside pipe and pull it out. For removing an outside pipe. I use the cutting wheel to cut two long grooves, just stopping short of cutting into the main pipe, although I often nick it. Normally pipes have expansion slits that you can extend. Again with the pliers and chisels, I pry it open and off, nicking additional metal as needed. I've never lost a battle so far. Fitment of the new pipe can sometimes be an issue. If you get desparate, you can make your own expansion slots and drive in a hand sledge hammer head or other suitable metal nose to expand it a bit, or else use C-clamps or pliers to taper it open and later collapse it snug with C-clamps and the muffler clamp. Do not slit it so far that it will leak. Muffler cement often helps lubricate the process and seal any tiny leak. Try not to wrestle the entire muffler system too much without adding a bit of wood bracing at the front so as not to crack the down pipe, flange and brackets there.

As a future note, your '89 GLE will be a 16-valve B234F. They use a larger diameter exhaust system than the NA engine. Initially the B234F exhaust system was a separate part number, but Volvo later switched to using a revised turbo exhaust system as a universal fitment. Any exhaust components listed for a 740 turbo should fit your wagon unless someone previously did something different. I'm a bit jealous of your GLE wagon. If I'd bought a wagon instead of a new '89 GLE sedan then I'd likely still have it, but a turbo wagon would have been a safer option what with the B234F weaknesses, especially that first year with the manual TB tensioner and plastic toothed balance belt gear.
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I don't know. How long has it been since you successfully logged in?

You could try to log in and say you forgot your password- that may enable you to retain your account. If that doesn't work perhaps you will have to establish another account.
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