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1993 940 Turbo ECU 900 1993

I’m going to attempt to reduce a 1993 940 Turbo Wagon with EGR. The car died a few years ago as he was driving it and was towed to the owners garage. He did the basics and claimed he had fuel and spark. I’m wondering about the ECU. to test it I was going to remove it and plug it into my 1992 740 Turbo and see if the car starts. He said he removed the cover on the ecu and all looked okay. I’m not sure one could actually tell if that was the case or not via a visual inspection. Any other things to check here? Thanks.








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    I'd follow Bill's advice and start with the basics at the OBD diagnostic to see if the ECU is at least alive and able to function. A faulty ECU or ignition controller are well down the list of initial likelihoods for a no-start, but it's simple and easy to check the ECU. Although a good sign, anyone who opens up the ECU and says it looks healthy is only saying there's no obvious evidence of a burn spot at an overheated and likely fried component. There are so many other ways for electronics to fail.

    FYI The odds are extremely good the ECU from a '93 940 B230FT would work in a '92 740 B230FT, both are LH 2.4 of similar vintage. Referring to Bill Garland's Volvo RWD ECU table (Google will find it for you), the '91-'93 LH 2.4 were seemingly compatible. If both engines have EGR then they may well both be the same p/n. If the '92 740 doesn't have EGR then an EGR ECU will likely still work, but can be expected to throw a Check Engine diagnostic and engine operation may be less than perfect. (Conversely, a non-EGR ECU in an EGR car typically won't throw a code.) I personally wouldn't bother doing an ECU swap unless you have stronger reasons to suspect the ECU as there's always the chance you'll accidentally weaken a contact or damage the tiny contact fingers.

    At the diagnostic connector, check both controllers: port 2 for the LH 2.4 ECU and port 6 for the EZ-K ignition controller. If you plug the test lead in and push the button without the LED flashing a code then it's either a diagnostic socket wiring connection failure (not overly uncommon) or a possibly dead controller. If you get a faint red glow then there could be a poor ground or a failing component in the diagnostic section of the controller, while the engine may still run fine.

    Next, read out and note any and all stored DTCs to indicate previously recorded faults. If the battery has been dead or the ECU disconnected there will be no codes, all will be 1-1-1. If any codes are present then read them twice to be sure then do a reset.

    What you really want here is to run all the ECU diagnostic tests (DTM 1, DTM 2, and DTM 3) to check the controller is getting signals from the various engine sensors and it can control devices such as the idle valve, injectors, the fan (2 speed) and EGR solenoid (if so equipped). The procedures are all documented here in the FAQ
    https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineOBDCodes.htm#FuelInjectionandIgnitionDiagnosticCodesi

    After that, inspect all fuses, check for spark at each plug (better to do it in the dark to note a strong spark), make sure the fuel pump(s) briefly spin up when the key is turned ON (better to also check for fuel pressure at the fuel rail Schrader valve, if needed even using a tire gauge to check the approximate residual pressure is 30+ psi), attempt a restart and take your diagnosis from there.

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    Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now



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      If the car has not been driven in a few years it probably has a dead battery. If the car sit without power will there be codes in memory to read?



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        The memory chips used in both the ECU and ignition controller are what's known as volatile memory. Any stored diagnostic codes as well as the dynamic fuel trim program data (from the last 16? starts) are lost. Rather than trying to remember the push button sequence to reset any OBD codes and make the Check Engine light go out, many simply disconnect the battery for a moment. The radio may then lose its pre-sets or now need an unlock code, so pulling a fuse instead of disconnecting the battery is better. Either way the adaptive fuel trim program will need to relearn the normal running conditions, which is of no great real concern. I sometimes purposely do that to see if the engine now seems to run a bit better under default running conditions, suggesting that something is slowly getting out of whack, like an aging O2 sensor. Thinking of the Check Engine light (CEL), although the presence of most stored OBD codes will cause the light to go on, there are a few less important ones that don't (as often noted in tables), which is why it's best to always check for codes during diagnosis.
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    Hi,

    Forget horsing around with ECU's, that's a last resort. There's a raft of compatibility problems.

    "He Got spark and fuel..."
    Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see.

    Are there OBD codes?? start there.

    When attempting to start the car, confirm spark.
    How did you confirm fuel? You can have fuel pressure at the FI rail
    but the injectors can be disabled by a bad RSR for instance.

    Try to start and look at the plugs. Are they wet or dry, or maybe badly fouled?

    If they're wet you have fuel. If they're dry check for a bad RSR.
    That's something you can swap to test.

    Pay attention to the RSR connectors, the support for the female pins can
    crumble away and require replacement. I just ordered some bullet connectors
    for my washer pumps that crapped out, and ordered a spare RSR connector to
    have on hand.
    (www.davebarton.com for connectors, wiring stuff and good advice & how-to's.)

    Post back, maybe it's just a dead RSR ?

    Bill



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