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Control arm, Please help! 700 87

posted by  someone claiming to be Mnadrlane on  Sat Nov 17 10:45 CST 2001 [RELATED]

I guess it's the control arm, anyway the arm that attaches to the frame on the front end by the back of the wheel well. I got it off to replace the cone shaped bushings. But where the front of the arm went into the old bushings it's very nasty. When I pulled it out, what was left of the old bushings just sort of fell out everywhere, bunch of rust too. Anyway you know that metal lining in the bushing, well it looks like the one from the old bushings is stuck, rtusted to the arm. I assume this is the issue. No way the new bushings are slipping over! Is it worth trying to hack it off somehow? did I get the wrong bushings? Do I need a new arm? Anyone heard of this?







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    Re: Control arm, Please help! 700 87

    posted by  someone claiming to be Peter Harkonen on  Mon Nov 19 08:22 CST 2001 [RELATED]

    You must get aggresive with a hammer and a chisel on that arm. Drive out ALL of the old material. It will take a while, but the old bushing metal core has to come out, completely..







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    Re: Control arm, Please help! 700 87

    posted by  someone claiming to be Haroon on  Sun Nov 18 12:00 CST 2001 [RELATED]

    It's common. Use a lot of pblaster and scrape it off with a screw driver. It'll pry off, rust doesn't bond to metal.







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    Re: Control arm, Please help! 700 87

    posted by  someone claiming to be Steve Ringlee on  Sat Nov 17 11:31 CST 2001 [RELATED]

    Use some PBlaster and try knocking the sleeve out of the arm with a screwdriver and hammer. It should come out. You may have to remove the control rod rear attaching bolt and the rod to get good access.







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      DEFINITELY remove the rear of the control arm! 700 87

      posted by  someone claiming to be JohnB on  Sun Nov 18 03:49 CST 2001 [RELATED]

      I don't know of any other way to get the other half of the cone rod bushing pair out.

      Your 87 probably has the iron lower suspension arm so you can be fairly aggressive about digging out the remainder of the cone bushing with a screwdriver and a hammer (use an old screwdriver or you'll be grinding it so it works on screws again!) but if it's an aluminum lower arm, you'll have to be a lot more careful. I didn't use PB blaster or liquid wrench, I just dug the old stuff out.

      Since you're down there, you'll also probably have to replace the swaybar links...the bushing is NLS no longer serviced and you have to buy the entire link..$20 each or so vice the $5 bushing. On the good side, at least you don't have to mess around with sockets and a vice or press to put the new bushing in.







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      Re: Control arm, Please help! 700 87

      posted by  someone claiming to be Mnadrlane on  Sat Nov 17 12:37 CST 2001 [RELATED]

      The metal inner-lining of the old bushing is stuck on the front of the control arm strut, not the hole in the control arm. Strange but I think this is the case. I have the control arm strut completely off the car. but the new bushings won't fit over the end because the old metal lining still appears to be stuck to it. it looks like water somehow got in there and basically rusted the bushing liner to the control arm strut end.

      Thanks for your time,

      Mike







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        Re: Control arm, Please help! 700 87

        posted by  someone claiming to be John Sargent on  Sat Nov 17 16:02 CST 2001 [RELATED]

        I had the same problem on the wife.gov's car. A few strikes with a hammer on a punch (Steve said screwdriver) removed the pieces.







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        Re: Control arm, Please help! 700 87

        posted by  someone claiming to be p.dwyer on  Sat Nov 17 12:49 CST 2001 [RELATED]

        M: have you tried to use vise-grips to work that old metal, either to twist it off or to cause it to fall apart? just a thought...--PD.






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