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2 white plugs 2 black 200

my 240gl87 is run poorly so I did a plug swap
two plugs looked fine clean and white like new
but #1 and #3 plugs were black and sooty
but no smoke in exausts
so I am thinking injectors are bad/leaking
can I rebuild them or swap them for rebuilt ones
who sells kits or rebuilts
or am I better off with junkyard parts???
new parts I assume are too pricie for me!!!!








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Yeah, sounds like fuel injectors. If you need them, good used ones are easy to find, on most junkyard engines, or FCP Groton sez:
0280150734 New Fuel Injector 1985-1988 $58.00 each Bosch
0280150762 New Fuel Injector 1989-1993 $72.00 each Bosch
1287010704 Fuel Injector Seal Kit (Does 1 Injector) $3.00 Bosch

You may also want to do a leakdown test and compression test to make sure that's not from some kind of oil burning.
This all assumes that the plugs, wires, cap, rotor were all in good shape.
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Rob Bareiss, New London, CT 86 244, 87 244, 88 744








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I have never had an injector go bad. They are quite heavy-duty and should last the life of the car. Having said that they could be clogged up. I would try running some quality fuel system cleaner through the tank and see what that does. I would also check the fuel pressure, it could be that the regulator is shot or the return line is clogged (causing high pressure). There may also be other reasons why your car is running rich but this is how I would start to troubleshoot the problem.

How is your gas milage?

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Matt L. -- Cary, NC -- '91 740 wagon








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2 white plugs 2 black 200

mileage is very poor
backfires on throtel lift off minorly

does each injector have a return line or one for all
as clearly only two cyl/inj are bad and two ok
as others have posted about gum/tar/ect in intakes
can that build up on injectors too????

what is normal gas line pressure??
normal compression reading??

it does not use oil or water at all
and both are clean








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If it does not use oil and your oil stays reasonably clean your compression is *probably* OK, should be around 160-170 psi. If your milage is bad the FPR (fuel pressure regulator) is the first place I would check. Gas line pressure should be around 40 PSI at idle. There is only one return line. The FPR is at the front of the fuel rail, and the return line comes out the bottom of it. Easy way to check for blockage is to disconnect the return line, and hook up a hose from the FPR discharge going into a jar or something like that. Run the car, at idle fuel should be literally pouring out of the return line. If it's just dribbling or not coming out at all, the FPR is probably bad. But you should also check the vacuum line going to the FPR, making sure there is actually vacuum there (sometimes the nipple on the intake manifold gets crudded up). Another common cause for rich mixture is the FPR is dumping fuel into the vacuum line, smell it to see if this is your problem (if so, replace FPR). The fact that only 2 injectors are your problem isn't bery meaningful, since they are mechanical devices they aren't all 100% identical, the excess pressure may only be dumping out 2 of them, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

So:
1. check flow of gas from return line (or hook up fuel pressure gauge)
2. check vacuum line to FPR, both for vacuum and for smell of fuel
3. run injector cleaner through the tank

hope this helps

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Matt L. -- Cary, NC -- '91 740 wagon








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2 white plugs 2 black 200

turned out to be bad plugwires actualy the old boots
on the plugs were arcing down in the bottom of the holes
I couldnot see or hear them unless at exactly the right angle/place
new wires were a cheap fix







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