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'84 244 TiA VS '79 242 GT 200

Hello fellow bricksters,

For the first time in nearly 30 years of being almost born in, grown up, injured, driven to hospitals, hockey, skiing, learned to drive, bought, sold and almost killed in, I seem to have my first problem buying a Brick. It will be my first real toy brick and I don't want to go wrong. I have found 2 of them as per my subject line, they are both west coast cars, they have their good points and bad points. Here are the candidates and their issues:

1984 244 Intercooled Turbo. Auto trans, factory intercooler. All options except cruise and leather. Rear headrests, all pads, oil temp, factory fogs, 196,000 km, starts up well, pops into gear nice. Air does not blow cold, 80% original paint, no accidents, rust crawling on the rear wheel wells, both spare tire wells, above the bumper trim and into the trunk, and rusted through in front of the driver's rear wheel rocker panel. All rust easily fixed/welded. It is that gorgeous blue colour that I remember from the showroom when my dad bought his '85 Volvo. As i said it starts up nice and runs very smooth. When it gets hot, it idles with the turbo in vacuum, but spools up nicely under load. I noticed an oil smell and this is what turns me off about the car. When you pop out the dipstick, you get a nice even chimeny of blue vapour (burnt oil) that intesifies with throttle application. HMMMMM..... WHAT COULD THIS BE??? (I'm serious, input please)

1979 242 GT. The last year of the 'pure' GT's. All suspension goodies, factory sunroof, power windows, original alloys, LSD in the back end. Currently the guys loaner car to customers and his personal car. 225,000 km and very strong. Zero rust, 30% original paint, no accidents and GT striping carefully masked off when it was repainted. Starts, runs, drives, smells, etc... just wonderfully. Although I could see myself stuffing a heavily modified B230FT under the hood to get my jollies, but that would be a couple of years down the road. Not to mention that I had a '78 GT in college that I loved.

Anyhow people, your input would be appreciated.

Happy Bricking,

Richard
87 245 DL 338,000 km and counting
Toy Brick... undecided....








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    Simple.

    Rust, AT, failing turbo VS GT, 4spOD, suspension mods, alloys, clean, classy

    GT wins. Next?

    Jim Weiss
    83245T, 90 760TI, 93 940TI wagon, and still looking
    ..... probably for YOUR 242GT



    btw, get the Rallye dash, and do the turbo swap.



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    Rust never sleeps. 4 doors are two too many to toy with. No question about it, get the GT.



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    Hmmm...Let's see. Totally cool 2dr GT or a 4dr auto turbo? You answered your own
    question just the way you wrote your post. There really isn't a much better or
    cooler 240 to have as a toy than a 2dr GT. The only one I personally prefer over
    the GT is a 2dr turbo. But, the handling of my old 1979 2dr DL that was my first
    Volvo is something I'll always miss. The early lighter 240 series can really be
    setup to handle great and the 79 GT setup is a really nice factory suspension.

    Sounds like the GT is a manual. A toy Volvo is best as a manual and it's alot
    of work to convert a car. Wish you well with your choice. Happy Rolling!

    Dave 82 242ti 277k mi.



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    I'd get the 242GT for a few reasons. I prefer ther 2 door volvos, rust would be a pain in the ass to deal with, it has LSD, and you can always drop a turbo motor later on if this is a "project". I persoanlly have a silver 83' 242Ti which I enjoy, but I have always liked the GT's.

    After driving a turbo, its hard to recommend N\A cars to people, but in this case i'd go that route.

    Good luck,

    --
    Zack Silver 83' 242Ti (210k)



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    Well, I was going with the 84 until I read the rust part. Go with the GT. It's possible to retro-fit some things, maybe a B21FT engine. Also if your tech is using it as a loaner, it's likely been well maintained. Does it have the B21F engine?

    Also, the smoke from the dipstick hole on the 84 would mean to me that the rings are really worn. Lots of blow-by. (blow-buy?) Is the 84 engine a B21FT? Can you get them both, rebuild the B21FT and put it into the 242GT?

    Good Luck,

    Bob

    :>)



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    Usually I am of turbo blood, but the GT is an awesome car. I think they are the best looking 240s ever made. Get the GT and then drop a turbo engine in down the road. The 79 is the most desirable model as well b/c of the thicker swaybars. Plus, you can get the cool volvo ralley gauges and of course it has the badass orange striped interior. Ok, now I'm jealous.

    Roguls
    New York, USA



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      The 242 GT hands down...they seem to command higher prices when clean compared to many early turbos. I like how clean and unfettered the early two doors look, also...

      Jay
      84 245 GLTi 219k



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    Ummm Richard ... so what's your pronblem here Guy .... the 244 OBVIOUSLY has 2 too many DOORS ..... Besides You LOVED the 242 you had in college .... really guy, I don't see the problem here ....
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    Brett Sutherland & the 1.5 million mile 122 Canadian



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    Having a beater '78GT and a fairly nice '83 244Ti daily driver, I say rust is the ultimate enemy. The power from the turbo is great (even with bad turbo seals - I use a quart every other week) but the GT handles better! I say go for the GT, and keep it clean - rust-free GTs are hard to find, especially up north. You can always do an engine swap later.



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      242 power!
      I've had 244GLE and now I have 242DL.
      242 has a great deal of advantages:
      Stiffer chassis
      Less weight
      cheaper to convert to electrical windows and power locks :-)
      Also you have a bit more place in the rear seat, as you dont have the door handles sticking out.

      The GT handling can also be bought at www.ipdusa.com. There you can get additional handling :) I'm going to buy myself poor there :p



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