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Weather effects on an auto 900 1995

Hey guys, thanks for all the great advice. Well, I purchased a 1995 960 (111000 miles) from Florida, and drove it to San Diego, CA. I'm very pleased with the car, however, after reading the opinions on 960's here I've become somewhat nervous about my purchase; I'm considering selling it, and maybe purchasing a 1995 Acura Legend. It occurs to me that most of you live in areas that have weather extremes much more severe than Florida or California. What are your opinions on the effects of weather on auto longevity? Do you think I can escape some of the problems commonly associated with 960's by living in California, along with religiously following the recommended service schedule? Thanks for your help.








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Weather effects on an auto 900 1995

Thanks a lot for your advice. I paid $5500 for it, and its in great condition. It handled the 2700 mile drive from Ft. Lauderdale to San Diego with NO problem!(and it is the most comfortable/fun to drive car i've ever driven). At my purchase price, I agree with you Bobby C., I can assume a little risk. I believe I will keep my 960 (now I gotta think of a name for it!).








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Weather effects on an auto 900 1996

I have to weigh in with a contrary position just to give an different opinion.

I have owned perhaps 100 cars so far (and counting) that span the range from Chevy Novas with straight six pushrod engines through MANY British sports cars to rather exotic Italian sports cars, and I have to say my '96 965 is on the Nova side of the bunch both in function and complexity. Aside from engine head work (being a 4valve/cyl DOHC design), it is no more comlex than most "modern" autos. In fact I selected this car ahead of ANY FWD, transverse V-6 engined car because it is MUCH easier to access components for service.

Interference? Sure. Most modern designs are interference designs. I did about 6 valve jobs on my 70's era belt driven SOHC Fiats (128s and X-1/9) when belts stripped cogs or slipped and actually got so I could do a complete job in 8 hours flat or a timing belt change in 45 minutes flat (when I finally realized that 12,000mi was a safe interval on the 128 Series engines). Those never damaged pistons (only valves) as long as the belts failed at engine start-up (as they always seemed to).

Is the Volvo 900 a bad car? Not in my opinion. I like it better in many ways than the 5, 6, and 7 Series BMWs I used as my "drivers" over the last 10 years, and they were wonderful cars (6 cyl SOHC interference engines, but with chain drive) to drive and easy and dirt cheap to maintain. In fact, I'd get one of those long before I'd drive an Acura or Lexus, though again I'd favor the straight 6 engine.

If you want expensive, try breaking a chain in a Mercedes V-8 with an aluminum block. The Volvo isn't cheap when the belt goes, but I don't hear of many going if changed at the service design limit (70K with newer cars or older ones with modification kits), with idler pulleys and water pumps changed every other belt. I also understand it's also a good idea to change the oil pump pulley bolt since it's in the timing belt circuit.

Personally, while the Accura (and most Japanese cars) are more reliable and service-free than Volvos, the Volvo 960 is a very satisfying car to own. Plus, you can find mint 960s or 965s (Like my '96 wagon-great utility) for almost peanuts compared to Accuras. I got mine with 102K this past summer for under $7K and comparable ES-300 Lexux and Legends were going for $11-13K. For that price difference, I am willing to assume a little risk.

Weather wise, a mild climate is easier on any car. The greater the temperature swing, the more everything is stressed, including even the interior (seats/dash) and paint. When I lived in Arizona, my paint, dashes and seats cracked; in Alaska, rubber any vinyl parts broke all of the time. Parking overnight with a FWD car once with the wheels turned would instantly destroy a set of front axle boots (since at 40 below made them unable to flex), so they'd crack (then dirt and sand would destroy the CV joints in short order). Even metal parts of different composition expand/contract at different rates, so the greater the differential, the greater the wear. In Alaska, I drove 4wd Subarus and full sized 4wd trucks (Blazers/Surburbans/Broncos/F-Series). The Subarus were bullet proof (park those wheels straight in the winter, though), but the American brutes were easier to fit into with bulky parkas and boots on, better survived collisions with big moose and other large vehicles, plus they were easier to repair with gloves/mittens on. Not much fun to drive, but you can change a water pump at 20 below outside in jig time on a 6 cyl OHV straight six.

If you have found a very clean 900 Series car and like it, I'd say keep it, though if you don't know when the timing belt ws last changed, it's cheap insurance to do it now. Other than that and the plastic/aluminum radiator (common to MANY cars nowadays) I just don't see that big a liability with the Volvo over other comparable cars, especially when you consider purchase price.

Bob








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Weather effects on an auto 900 1995

While the weather have have some effect, IMHO it have very little to do with the concerns of the 960. I speak from personnal experience and in my case it wasn't pleasant. There are alot of owners of 960's that haven' had the problems mention on this board and that's good. If had had to do it over I would not buy the 960. I purchased a 92 960 and found the car to be expensive to keep up. If the maintenace is done properly and on time the chances are you will not have the major concerns that can trash an engine. If you don't know the history of the car as far as maintenance is concerned then I would have second thoughts about the car. A well maintained car even a 960 can last a long time. Just be prepared to spend some money on keeping the car up and you need someone you can trust and knows what they're doing as this is not the car for a OJT person. In the three years I had my 960 I enjoyed the car on the road. Hopefully mine was an exception as to the problems I encountered. I am not trying to scare you into selling the car. I have been driving Volvo's for 22Years and have been please with all except my 960. For me personnally it may take awhile before I am ready to have another interfence engine. To solve this issue I bought a 940 SE turbo which is essentially a 960 with a 4cylinder turbo. The car didn't cost me any more that estimated cost to refurbish the 960 back to running condition.








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Weather effects on an auto 900 1995

Yeah, I agree that the 960 is a sensitive car and likes being looked after, perhaps more than most cars, but to swap it for a bloody Honda? You must be joking?!

George
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1987 745 GLE Turbodiesel Intercooler (D24TIC/M46) 190k and 1988 745 Turbo Intercooler (B230FT/M46) 290k







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