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Update on my No Start 700

Today i removed the injectors to test the spray patterns. They had no spray patterns. Barely a trickle was coming out of them. I seemed to have solved my problem. Looks like my fuel pump is gone. I still don't understand why it would make the whurling noise like its working but not pump enough pressure. Its getting fuel to the fuel line, just not nearly enough.

Anyone know why?
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-Brandon at FSU '88 744ti 150k miles








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When was the last time you changed your fuel filter?








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Well, i just ordered both the fuel pump and a new fuel filter. I last changed the fuel filter about a year ago. Not too long at all. I'm changing it anyway and checking the fuel pump check valve.
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-Brandon at FSU '88 744ti 150k miles








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OK, i ordered a new fuel pump. It should be in by saturday. I'll change it as soon as it comes in. This better fix it. I'll be pissed if i spent $150 for nothing. I've narrowed it down to this.
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-Brandon at FSU '88 744ti 150k miles








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Change your filter too.








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Please post back about what happens after the new fuel pump. My symptoms and your diagnostics sound identical.
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1989 740Ti 1986 240DL 1984 244GL








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Had a bout of similar problems over a year or so. First main pump failed. Then in-tank pump failed (sign: squealing noise from main pump) Then fuel pressure regulator failed (sign: intermittent engine stalls, main pump variable speed as judged from sounds from it). To work on these things, IMHO; is much like fixing a failing PC: swap each bit with a working PC/car till it works. Suggestion: drive with open window while driving and listen for pump sound, if variable, change FPR. If, instead, main pump is squealing I would suggest failing in-tank pump, clogged-up below-in-tank-pump filter, or perhaps failure in in-tank tubing/connection.

Good luck and donīt despair








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I would really love to be able to drive around, but the car doesn't even have enough fuel pressure to drive.
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-Brandon at FSU '88 744ti 150k miles








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If you are in a safe place outdoors (parking place with some wind and no smokers) or in an appropriate well ventilated area, and have the regular amount of guts you can take off the fuel lines before and after the FPR and check if there is good pressure during or after a very brief crank (try one at a time, then crank and try the next)(the brief crank starts the fuel pumps enough to build up the normal operating pressure). If I remember right, you should have good pressure before the FPR even a minute after crank (fuel squirts out when disconnecting). The line after the FPR I think you can stick (or connect to a hose and stick) into a small bucket or something, and there should be a good flow of fuel while cranking. If poor fuel flow there, and poor remaining pressure in line before FPR, then there is something wrong with anything from in-tank filter, in-tank pump/tubing or main fuel pump/filter. If fuel flow is good after FPR but poor remaining pressure before FPR, then trhe FPR is poor, and letting fuel flow past it. It is very easy to change the FPR, and something you might want to do anyway if the car has considerable mileage. When changing FPR, look out for the 3-4 mm thick black O-ring in seat towards rail. If difficult to push in new one (O-ring on the connection), just apply tiny bit of motor oil/grease. Supposedly, a main fuel pump should last 120-150 k miles (local grapevine truth, for what it is worth).

When working on the fuel system, remember that gas fumes can flow "downhill" towards heated items and ignite.








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correction; failure of in tank pump alone, without other complication such as clogged in-tank filter, will not on itīs own cause your problem. But one problem usually donīt come alone....








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The in-tank pump is working , but the main pump is not.








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I had a stall/no start problem that was strange. If memory serves, it turned out to be the check valve/fuel hose between the primary pump and the fuel filter was plugged or otherwise inhibited. I cleaned it out and it started right up.

It would take just a couple of minutes to check and is a simple solution.

longbaugh
'89 740 GLE








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Could be it's working but isn't getting fuel delivered to it by the pre pump in the tank.


Regards


Pete








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I would think that the pump still would get some fuel, just not as well. But what fuel it did get would still get the right amount of pressure to the injectors.
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-Brandon at FSU '88 744ti 150k miles








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I take it this is a CIS car? If so you're wrong. If the in tank pump is defective the main pump won't generate enough pressure to operate the injectors. Really you need to test this with a fuel pressure gauge. But it wouldn't hurt to check the in tank pump, they're significantly cheaper than the main pump for starters.

Regards

Pete








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I hotwired the relay and open the gas tank. I could hear the in-tank pump whinning like it was working. So i figure its fine. Techically both pumps are making their little noise and the main it getting some fuel to the rail, just not nearly enough.

What does CIS mean?
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-Brandon at FSU '88 744ti 150k miles








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Continous injection system as opposed to Pulse injection system.








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So if Continous injection system = CIS

does

Pulse injection system = PIS?








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ian f.
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