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Tailgate Hinge Wiring? 200 1986

So I finally bought myself a Bently manual for my wifes 245. I am realizing that I need to pay the car a LOT more attention so that she continues to be happy with it. Otherwise she's going demand a new one! A new Brick is out of the question, and because of the kids, their friends and the dog, etc, the replacement will probably end up being a m...mm..mmm...mmmi...mmmin (uhggg!)....minivan. I just can't face that...I'll do almost anything to keep this old wagon well!

Anyway I bought the replacement wiring harnesses for the severed ones that go through the tailgate hinges. The Bently Manual barely mentions the hinges. It appears that the tailgate and hinge actually have to be removed from the car in order to feed the new harness through (or remove the old one for that matter). Does anyone have any tips for doing this. (Removal of body panels and doors and such in the past has proven to be something to avoid if at all possible)

Also I would assume that these hinges probably wear out as well (I get lots of creeks and growns when opening the hatch. If I have to take everything apart, should I replace these as well?








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Tailgate Hinge Wiring? 200 1986

I rerouted mine on the driver side with out removing the hinge to see how it would work 2 weeks and i think its going to be fine, found a good description in the FAQ and modified it a little, I'm not that picky about looks at this point. (my car NOT the wifes) I was suprised how easy it was and real glad to be rid of the wires through the hinge deal, an idea that rates right up there with bio-degradeable wireing and threading the wire harness "through' the intake manifold IMHO, I love my bricks but the wiring really does look like something I'd do.
Bret
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Tailgate Hinge Wiring? 200 1986

I agree with other replies - don't put the wires through the hinges. You can enclose them in a bit of plastic tube, or just wind wiring tape round. Ordinary wire will do, it doesn't have to be the special fragile flexi stuff.
It is not quite as elegant as the hinge route, but a lot easier to repair next time.








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Tailgate Hinge Wiring? 200 1986

Hi again

Only a little tip...as I said before, the whole procedure isnīt that complicated but I said also that I had to do it twice, this means that these wires LOVE to fail. In order to prevent this I rerouted the wires on my second repair procedure. I used the holes on both sides of the tailgate - where the little adjusting/retaining bolts are visible and routed the wires through them. Then I cut a hole into the headliner and drove the car to a shop where they sealed the edge of the holes with a kind of metal seal ring like on the trailer canvas securing holes - only a lot smaller. Then I reroute the wires through the holes in the headliner and connected them. Next step was to isolate the exposed wires. I bought a kind of rubber coating material which is in use for wire isolation in modern cars as well and pulled it over the tailgate wires to gain a somewhat "elegant" fit.
That solution worked absolutely perfect. I couldnīt guarantee that this will prevent failure of the wires again but removal of the entire tailgate will not be necessary again. THis will save lots of time and moreover the tailgate couldnīt get damaged - you could do lots of precautions but sh.. happens even though youīre working carefully :-)

By the way, I got this "wire rerouting" idea from the brickboard, unfortunately I donīt know who posted this topic but thanks a lot to who ever has created that idea!

Good luck again -- Ciao M.P.








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Tailgate Hinge Wiring? 200 1986

Hi

You should not be worried about the tailgate job. It only sounds difficult.
There are two options fixing the wires.
You could remove one hinge first then route the wire through it, fix it together and then move on to the second hinge. I never done it that way so I could not say how that works.
I did the job twice by removing the entire tailgate. For both options you should remove the hinges. With mounted hinges routing of the wires unfortunately is hardly possible.
If you decide to remove the entire tailgate you need a second person supporting the gate during removing/mounting procedure.

First detach some inches of the headliner in the trunk. You only need to pull the edge of the headliner from the lip of the roof panel and it becomes free.
Now disconnect the wiring which leads into the tailgate. Bear in mind which wire belongs to which side due to proper installation of the new ones.

Then unscrew the tailgate retaining bolt on the roof inside the trunk. Wiring and bolt become visible after removal of headliner. At that stage it would be safe having somebody supporting the tailgate because the supporting struts may collapse with both hinges unbolted from the car.

When unbolting is finished you could pry away the retaining clips from the support struts on the tailgate and simply pull them sideways till the gate becomes free. Then lift the gate off the car and place it on a tablecloth or something else wich protects it from scratches. Remove the trim panel on the bottom of the tailgate by simply pulling on the edge of the trim until it comes off. Donīt pull too hard because the clips may getting damaged. Now the electrical components becoming visible.

Disconnect all electrical components inside the tailgate.

Now you could unbolt the main tailgate hinge on the gate itself and the little bolt which is visible trough the hole over the tailgate mounting bolt. Perhaps youīre lucky and get the wires out of the hinge without removing the hinge completely...I was not so lucky :-) Pull out the old wires. There is some rubber seal underneath the hinges, bear in mind which one belongs to which side.

Now itīs time to route the new wires through the tailgate. Take a good armlenght of thin rope or thin steel wire and secure it on the new Volvo wire. Then pull the steel wire through the hole on top of the tailgate untill you could grasp it on the bottom of the gate. Then carefully pull the Volvo wire through the gate till it arrives on the bottom of where you could connect the electrical components. Next step is to route the wire trough the hinges. When this is done mount the hinge on the tailgate (do not forget to place the rubber seal underneath the hinge) When wire is trough secure the big mounting bolt on the tailgate and the smaller one in the hole above it.

Now youīll need the second person again to place the gate back on the car. First pull the wires trough the hole on the roof than put the hinge on it (think of the sealing again) and secure it from inside the trunk. Pull the supporting struts on the gate again and place the securing clips on them. Now you could connect the wires with the existing wires in the roof and the job is done.

Before reinstalling the headliner test proper function of electronics of the gate (wiper, window heating etc). Close the gate and test for proper fit around the surrounding body. If it doesnt fit that perfect loose the mounting hinges (inside the roof and inside the hole above the big mounting bolt on the tailgate) a little bit and push the gate gently in place.

Perhaps this sounds a little bit complicated but when you start you will see, that it is quite a straight forward job. Keep your working area clean and keep care for not losing any parts which you remove from the gate and the car. The very first job , the first hinge, will take longer, the second and reinstllation would go a little faster :-)

When hinges are off you could also replace the ground wires, black wires inside the hinges.

The noises youīve described could result from bad supporting struts but Iīm not perfectly sure because I hadnīt such noises before. I could only say, that I donīt know if such noises could result from the hinges itselves. Normally they doesnīt need to be replaced as long as the chrome is acceptable :-)

Good luck and lots of greetings M.P.







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