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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

Any other ideas?

how do I check to see if I have spark?

thanks,

jack
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Bad Blue, '86 245, 260,000 mi., Columbus, Ohio








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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

Thanks all,

I'm afraid I started in on the fuel pump already ... but I think the timing belt is suspect sense I had it uncovered the other day and it is soaked in sludge ...

would it be broken or just slipping... would either cause a no spark condition?

getting my gun ready ... will wait to shoot myself until after the car is running so it will be a lasting memory....

:)

jack
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Bad Blue, '86 245, 260,000 mi., Columbus, Ohio








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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

I simply pull the coil wire off the center of the distributor cap, and put the end over by the left hood hinge. It can kind of be tucked in there, so that the brass end is about 1/4 inch from the car body (not grounded out). In this position you can observe the spark coming from the end of the wire, while you turn the key.
If there's no spark, you'll get no fuel either. The computer must receive pulses from the distributor sensor in order to enable the fuel pumps.
If there is no spark it's possible that the timing belt has failed. You want to either remove the oil cap, and look at the camshaft, or remove the dist cap and look at the rotor. Turn the engine over and see if the cam, or rotor turns. If so, then the timing belt is intact- if not it is broken and you need a new one. There should be no other damage to the engine from this failure. If the belt is oily, the three front oil seals must be changed as well. FCP Groton sells a timing belt kit for only $11.95- check them out at www.fcpgroton.com
You need a bit more diagnosis if the timing belt is NOT broken. The fuel pump relay is always suspect- try a new one next, and also inspect the white fuse holder behind the battery. Should be clipped to the fender edge, but sometimes the fuseholder falls down by the power steering reservoir. It's only $3 from Volvo- disconnect the battery if you find you have to replace this. They do get crusty, corroded, or melted, and this is main power for the fuel injection!
After those steps, it could be a fuel pump, or a failed coil or something similar. Also, I just fixed an 87 last month, similar symptoms- check the grey 2-pin connector right near the coil (see pic) and make sure it's clean inside and fully engaged. Good luck with it!!
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Rob Bareiss, New London CT ::: '87 244DL/M47- 225K, 88 744GLE- 209K, 91 244 183K. Also responsible for the care and feeding of: 88 745GLE, 229K, 88 244GL, 146K, 87 244DL, 235K, 88 245DL, 236K









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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

While testing my fuel pump I jumpered the relay and turned the key to ON then listened and heard my intank pump whirring....

Does this mean that my timing belt is sending distributor pulses????

I will finish the fuel pump install later this afternoon (after work).

hopefully the timing belt will get me home to do the cam/crank/intermediate shaft seals soon.

thanks Rob,

jack
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Bad Blue, '86 245, 260,000 mi., Columbus, Ohio








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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

Pull a spark plug out of the head, leave the plug wire attached and place the plug on the engine. Crank the engine and look for a spark in the plug. You need to make sure the body of the spark plug is grounded to metal on the engine. Dan
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85 245 M46 189K, 92 245 A70 116K








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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

thanks,

I followed the FAQ on fuel pump relay diagnostics and I'm pretty sure my main pump is not running...

going after that now, had to get a ride...

guess it's not the end of the world ...

hopefully it's the main pump.

jack
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Bad Blue, '86 245, 260,000 mi., Columbus, Ohio








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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

Did you check the fuses, one for the main and one for the in tank pump, either 4 &6 or 5&7. Did you jumper the fuses? This bypasses the relay and should force both pumps to run. Also check the ground wire under the rear seat. Dan
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85 245 M46 189K, 92 245 A70 116K








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cranks but no start... tried reheating Fuel pump relay solder joints... need to get my kids! 200 1986

Dan, just wondering, will the car operate with the fuses jumped?,







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