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Need to replace some brake lines due to age cracks. Has anyone used the stainless steel brake lines? suppose to give a firmer pedal. IPD has the set for $119.
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I just bought new rubber lines from FCP Groton to repair a rapidly wearing pad on the front. I believe the line was the cause of the problem, because neither piston was seized on the side with the heavily worn pad.
I already had a firm pedal with original '87 rubber lines, so I didn't see much point to spending more for SS. EuroSport Tuning has them for a little less than IPD, but shipping might equal it out.
Spend your money on good pads if you want to stop quicker. The KVR pads from EST are very good when cold, and get better with heat. The price is very good when compared to other high performance pads like Porterfield, EBC, or Mintex.
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Truely, the last set you will ever buy... got them on my car also.
A better/firmer pedal feel is debatable but I like the security of their construction, since I had a rubber line fail once.
If you got the cash & plan on keeping your ride for awhile, a good investment!
Peace, Jon
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someone claiming to be OBryan
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Jon
I found some braided steel lines at the pick and pull and I asked my neighbor Guido, the local wrench that the lawyers take their 911's and Ferraris to,about them and he said that the only thing steel lines do is firm up the pedal. He also said that when they fail they lose the brake fluid like right now while the rubber lines generally weep first and blow later. Per his advice I have not installed by SS brake lines. His shop was full of Jags, Benzs,Porches, 5 Ferraris (I didn't even know there were that many around here!) and even a Bently but Guido drives an older SAAB and his lovely wife has a newer Volvo wagon and he says my 242GT is "a real neat car!"
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I wouldn't worry about surface age cracks. Grab the hoses while someone pumps, and see if you feel anything. They should go 15 years or more before problems are apt to show up.
IMO, the time to replace them (which can be a real PITA) is when you find your first soft one. And the touted effects of stainless aren't worth the effort and expense for normal, non-competitive driving.
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Bruce Young,
'93 940-NA (current) — 240s (one V8) — 140s — 122s — since '63.
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I wouldn't worry about surface age cracks. Grab the hoses while someone pumps, and see if you feel anything. They should go 15 or more before problems are perhaps possible.
IMO, the time to replace them (which can be a real PITA) is when you find your first soft one. And the touted effects of stainless aren't worth the effort and expense for normal, non-competitive driving.
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Bruce Young,
'93 940-NA (current) — 240s (one V8) — 140s — 122s — since '63.
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in the FAQ
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Hi,
Stainless steel lines "used to be" one of the big upgrades on Porsches (again to improve pedal feel). A lot of the club members are going back to OEM rubber lines for their street cars. I think the thought is that if there's any damage or problem with the line (cracking, etc.), the owner will more easily see it on the rubber line, while on the stainless-covered line the damage/fault would be much more difficult to find.
All that said, I still have stainless lines on my 914, and OEM lines on all the Volvos.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Steve A-
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I have them on two cars. Difference in feel is not all that noticeable in my opinion, others disagree. FCP Groton has the rubber lines for $8 each front/$12 each rear, so $56 the set. If you bought the rubber lines, you could also get a set of front and rear pads, several quarts of your favorite brake fluid to flush the system, and probably have some change left over.
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Mike W., '79 242GT (project car), '85 245DL (daily driver 1), '87 245 DL (daily driver 2), '90 244DL (son's project car), '91 744T (daily driver 3), '92 245DL (parts car), '94 944T (wifemobile), Largo, FL
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I've got SS lines on all my cars. They definitely have a firmer, easier to modulate feel and they last much, much longer. A good safety and performance upgrade.
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posted by
someone claiming to be bosozoku
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Sat Feb 28 13:39 CST 2004 [ RELATED]
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The stock lines can go 15 or so years without replacement. The
problem with SS lines is that you can't see cracks or other damage
in the rubber/plastic core until they start leaking. Plus, dirt
can accumulate in the steel braiding and cause damage.
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The braiding in my lines seems too tight to allow dirt in but I suppose it's possible. Then there's a teflon lining it would have to get past in order to abrade the actual brake hose.
The SS casing markedly reduces ballooning of the line which I imagine is the major cause of breakdown over time. It plus the plastic/teflon sleeve also protects the line from contaminents, esp. oils which rapidly degrade rubber.
I guess actual failure stats are the only way to really tell which line is more durable. But I would use them for the improvement in pedal feel alone, though this may not be as important to a less performance-oriented driver.
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