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Overheating Intermittently 200 1980

My brick has 280k miles. About two weeks ago, I noticed the following. Every time I start the engine, about five minutes later, the temperature gauge creeps up to just below the red mark; this lasts one minute regardless as to whether I turn on my auxiliary electric fan or the heater full blast. Only cool air comes out of the heater. The upper radiator hose is warm to touch and the coolant overflow tank is overflowing with coolant; about a quart of coolant is lost each time. This overheating occurs every time, whether I am driving on a hill or level surface. Last week, I changed the overflow cap and thermostat (installed 180' Beck-Arnley) and flushed the radiator (which is only 1 year old). I also squeezed and squeezed the upper radiator hose and turned the heater on full blast when I was flushing the radiator. The flame trap is clear. No oil is in the coolant (I changed the oil this afternoon). No coolant is in the dipstick or on the spark plugs. No coolant is leaking anywhere - except out of the overflow cap. Timing and idle speed are correct. No white smoke or water comes out of the exhaust. When the engine is off, coolant pressure is constant. The gas gauge appears to be working well.

Thanks in advance








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    "The upper radiator hose is warm to touch and the coolant overflow tank is overflowing with coolant; about a quart of coolant is lost each time."

    Does this mean that you lose a quart of coolant out of the pressure release pinhole in the top of the reservoir cap? Otherwise, where is the quart of coolant going everytime you run the engine?

    Assuming it is all coming out of the reservoir cap, that is a lot of fluid to be pushed out. Maybe you have air traped in the system. This would cause inefficient cooling and gases expand a lot more than fluids, so as the car temp rises the volume of the air in the system rises, as well as the pressure, and pushes out the fluid in the reservoir. When you intstalled the thermostat, did you make sure you had the bleeder valve installed in the 12o'clock position and that you installed in in the proper direction? This allows trapped air to escape the system.

    Does the engine run well otherwise? There might be anoher reason that the engine is burning hot, like an excessively lean condition caused by a vacuum leak. You might want to check the O2 sensor with a voltmeter to make sure the engine is running at correct mixture. Also, you should check and maybe replace the hoses that run from the engine back to the heater core for leaks of anysort. If you only get cool air out of your heater then either the car isn't warmed up, or there is a clog somewhere in the system.

    I had a similar problem with my car. One day it decided to overheat for about a minute after warming up almost every time I started it. I replaced everything in the cooling system, except for the water pump, and flushed everything. After going through all of that I went back and replaced the thermostat again, but this time with one from the dealership, and it was rated the lowest temp I had found. After installing it I warmed up the enigne with the reservoir cap off. When the engine started to get up to temp fluid started to flow out of the reservoir but stopped after 10 seconds or so. I think this was due to the system purging the air. Then no more problems. A few weeks ago I was even in 110 degree heat going up 10% grade without a single problem. Maybe you just got a faulty thermostat like I did.








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    Overheating Intermittently 200 1980

    Check this entry in the FAQ as well as other entries in this section. It may be you have a leaking head gasket.

    http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineMechanical.htm#TempGaugeActsOddlyLeakingHeadgasket








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    Overheating Intermittently 200 1980

    Did you back flush the radiator fins ? Take a garden hose and spay through the fins of the radiator from the engine side towards the front. Take the grill off, and look through the radiator...if you can't see anything.... flush .

    All fins are straight and not bent or mushed together ?

    The "Beck Arnely" thermostat...had the little jiggle pin (looks like a small rivet on the plate of the thermostat......(ensures proper bleeding of the system), and was the thermostat put in properly ? I believe the top cross bar is to run from 12:00 - 6:00 and the jiggle pin is to be towards the front of the car.

    Hope this helps.








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    Overheating Intermittently 200 1980

    This sounds like the classic temp sender problem. the sender is located under the #2 port of the intake manifold. Remove the lead and ground it. the temperature should go hot. I did mine last year and all my temp problems are gone. You may have to loosen the intake manifold to get a socket on it. Its a nice cheap fix that is the most likely problem.
    --
    Simon 80 240 299k 17 years. "White Lightning"








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      Thanks for the idea, but there's one problem 200 1980

      I believe the temperature sender is correctly reading the temperature. I see coolant overflowing and bubbling out of the radiator overflow tank; a defective temperature sender does not explain this event.








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    Forgot to Add... 200 1980

    When the temperature gauge needle falls, it stays steady just below the left tip of the "N" on the temperature gauge.







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