Volvo RWD 200 Forum

INDEX FOR 1/2026(CURRENT) INDEX FOR 1/2005 200 INDEX

[<<]  [>>]


THREADED THREADED EXPANDED FLAT PRINT ALL
MESSAGES IN THIS THREAD




  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Ongoing Saga - 87 245 cold weather no start......home on the hook...... 200

Thanks for all the input so far.............

I went back to town this afternoon - with a freshly re-soldered fuel pump relay in hand.

No start.

----- unplugged AMM

No Start

------ checked rotor and cap - re-installed -

No Start

car smells like it's flooding - a rich mixture - when cranking - does sputter/cough once or twice...
Put pedal to floor to clear fuel mixture - no change. - except speedo needle hops around.


No start

Called AMA - these Volvo's do tow nice...

Car is now at home in driveway - plugged in block heater - and battery charger.

Left it for a few hours - tried it again

NO Start !!!!!!!


FYI - I have checked/cleaned the AIC valve, and throttle body within the past 3 days.


OK -


so maybe I am missing something basic.

Or else there is something else I need to consider as far as the electronic part.

thanks in advance

Goldy

Red Deer AB CA








  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Ongoing Saga - 87 245 cold weather no start......home on the hook...... 200

Hello there Gord from someone who has actually been to Red Deer (worked at Joffre, Nova Chemicals on many trips from the states)

Hope your luck improves. I didn't see any confirmation in your posts that you are actually getting good spark. I'm assuming that at least the following is true:
1) timing belt's not broken
2) cap and rotor are fairly clean, no black carbon shadows inside and clean copper contacts
3) the fuel system is getting the pulses from the ignition system that tell it to turn on the pumps once it starts cranking
4) there is actually some gas in the car

OK that leaves us with a few possiiblities. Pull the coil wire from the dist cap, tuck it in by the left hood hinge, not grounded out, and crank. Dont hold the end of the wire! Should get strong bluish spark there. If not, we have other problems, like the connector under the coil- a 2 wire (blue, red/white) plug that provides +12V to the coil, I've had that plug act up. Unplug, securely reconnect, clean up contacts if corroded. That was also on a no-start 87, so who knows?
Plug the coil wire back in, and check a couple spark plugs- remove and see if they're black or clean. New plugs are Bosch WR7DC if you need em. At least try cleaning them off if they're dirty and the parts store is closed....
If ignition is all ok lets move to fuel. First of all try to hear the fuel pumps. They should run as the engine is cranked for 5 secs or more. Can be hard to hear over a cranking engine so reach under and put your hand on the main one under the left rear seat. Should feel it buzz. If not, make a little jumper wire and jump fuse 4 to fuse 6 in the fuseblock. Probably get a healthy spark because it will start the fuel pumps. Any difference/ any luck?
Ok move on to the fuel pressure regulator on the intake manifold. That's the cylinder at the front end of the fuel rail for the injectors. Remove the hose from the bottom of it- that's the return to tank. Put a coffee can or something under to catch any fuel. Crank. After 10 secs or so, there should be fuel coming out the return. If not, no fuel pressure. You can remove the inlet line at the back end of the fuel rail to verify this. If you can, put some of that gas into the throttle, or use some starting fluid or even WD40 in there- see if the engine will fire if given some fuel that way. That would confirm that everything else is good except fuel supply.
Now,I would have sworn to you a year ago that any fuel pump that RUNS has to PUMP. Not so. Another 87 I worked on had an autozone-replacement-junk pump quit this summer on my neighbors 87. Installed a new one for her (and filter) all correct Bosch, on the side of the road- car fired instantly. It may come to that- hope this helps- good luck, eh?
--
Rob Bareiss, New London CT ::: '87 244DL/M47- 234K, '82 245T/M46-182K, '89 244DL/AW70- 212K Not too distant past: 86 244DL 215K, 87 244DL 239K, 88 744GLE 233K, 88 244GL 147K, 91 244 183K









  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Ongoing Saga - 87 245 cold weather no start......home on the hook...... 200

Hi Rob:

The weather turned warm today - permitting reasonable driveway mechanical analysis.

- your photo of the coil area, with the clip, and your comment about no spark form the coil - put me to thinking....

I cleaned the clip contacts- no difference.

Then I went back to the two spade clips on top the coil - cleaned them by sliding the clip on and off a few times. Hey - the old boy coughed and sputtered.
Dug out my small rust remove pen (fiberglass strands in a pen shaped holder) and scrubbed the spade and clip clean.
EUREKA !!!
The old boy fired up like old times.



One other question. At the top of the intake manifold, there is a one way valve, short (2") piece of rubber hose, and a thin hard plastic line running to the firewall, right hand side. When I pulled off this small hose - the idle smoothed out. What is this hose - what does it do. Any indications with the idle smoothing out???


Thanks again to everyone who offerred input - we are now a 2 Volvo family again!!!!!!


MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!1111


Gord Hull

Red Deer AB Canada








  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Ongoing Saga - 87 245 cold weather no start......home on the hook......Thanks Rob 200

Thanks for the systematic way to tackle the situation....
I shall walk through it and let you know what transpires.....

Gord







<< < > >>



©Jarrod Stenberg 1997-2022. All material except where indicated.


All participants agree to these terms.

Brickboard.com is not affiliated with nor sponsored by AB Volvo, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Cars of North America, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. Brickboard.com is a Volvo owner/enthusiast site, similar to a club, and does not intend to pose as an official Volvo site. The official Volvo site can be found here.