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Don't you hate it when people say "ur volvo is a piece of s***? they obviously no nothing about cars. AHHH it just ticks me off pretty bad. some say i think my car (subaru legacy) is a lot faster, nicer, and newer. i say i agree on the faster, and newer part but but sure as hell not on the nicer part. wow what a retard. omg it just really ticks me off. anyone agree with me?
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posted by
someone claiming to be Manolo
on
Wed Jun 1 15:41 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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Consumer Reports has traditionally been tough on Volvos, even when their written conclusions were directly contradicted by the owner satisfaction and reliability data in their own tables.
I still recall the way Consumer Reports compared the 1991 245 to the 1991 Taurus wagon. They found the Taurus to be superior in every category and concluded that the buyer would have to be foolish to pay more for the 'outdated' Volvo.
My sister bought a 1991 Taurus wagon and I bought a 245.
15 years and 225k miles later, my 245 still takes me to work every day and carries the family on all weekend outings (rides better and carries more than the wife's newer BMW). It sill shines like new (it's white).
The Taurus went to the junk yard after 8 years and 110k miles. It was rusty and faded. She spent double the original price difference in repairs, and it left her stranded several times.
My 245 has been more reliable, safer, cheaper to own, and (so far) has lasted twice as long. Tell me again how that 'state-of-the-art' Taurus was superior????
So much for the opinions of the "experts" at Consumer Reports.
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Any time I get some grief about our Volvos, I remind myself that our '89 240s will likely still be on the road after their newer POS has gone to the junkyard.
This also works to remedy newer-car-envy, which does occasionally manifest itself in me.
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There are fewer and fewer of these cars everday, we don't really want to encourage too many people they are great cars now do we! We all know why we want to drive them. Dan
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My previous 245 ( a white 87) had well over 225k miles on it when I bought it, and over 275k when I sold it. It was a southern rust-free car, but it didn't look new. One day I stopped at a Chrysler dealership to pick up a head gasket set for a Dodge Neon, and a salesman approached me to make fun of my car. He started in on how they'd like to sell me a new car, but didn't know that I'd have enough money to pay them to take my trade-in. He then said he didn't know that I'd be allowed to park the brick in front of the dealership. I responded with the fact that I was buying a head gasket set for a Neon with 75k miles on it... the third set it had needed in it's short life. I told him with that kind of quality control it was amazing they could sell cars at all. I then told him to pick the most expensive car they had on the lot, and I'd put my well-worn 240 up against it in a test of longevity. I said that he should call me when his transmission self-destructs, and I'd come out and tow his pentastar POS to the repair shop.
I then told him to change the oil in his hair, and to please have a nice day. He turned beet red, and the other salesmen laughed their asses off.
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Wow, what an @ss!
One day I stopped at a Chrysler dealership to pick up a head gasket set for a Dodge Neon, and a salesman approached me to make fun of my car. He started in on how they'd like to sell me a new car, but didn't know that I'd have enough money to pay them to take my trade-in. He then said he didn't know that I'd be allowed to park the brick in front of the dealership.
Even if he thought your Volvo was the worst POS he'd seen, if he had a lick of common sense and business acumen he'd keep his mouth shut. That's no way to treat a paying customer.
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Norm Cook; Vancouver BC; 1989 745T 206,000KM
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I tend to work on many family and friends' cars. It's so much fun pulling up to a Dodge, Ford, or Honda dealer to pick up parts for their cars in my wagon.
mormit
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85 245DL 260,000mi V15cam It takes a licking and keeps on ticking, 02 S40 Mmmmmm,
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sorry if i had offended anyone in anyway but seriously come on these idiots say it everytime they see me. also yeah i do agree that i have all those good things in life but im just sayin ya know what do they gotta make fun of someone elses car, and it really sets me off when they have no room to talk. i mean this idiot that drives a rusted old beat up blazer and says the same crap he says to me all the time about the volvo and this kid drives a freaking purple saturn and says all that. when you are devoted to something u gotta fight for it is what im sayin. i know that not everyone likes volvos but idk why they would want to be a in a piece of crap plastic car than a 2000 pound piece of steel. i say all these incredible facts about these cars to them and they think im lying its really insane.
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Crunk84Volvo, some truths are obvious, and everyone agrees with them. Other truths are subtle and you need real perception to know them. How good Volvos are is one of those second kinds of truth.
I have owned six of these things, and every one of them has caught me some kind of BS from average people who don't know very much about cars or machinery of any kind. I've learned to be good-natured about it; it's when you act annoyed that their eyes get that gleam of moronic satisfaction.
Actually, I prefer that most folks don't understand our bricks. It improves the likelihood that a good 240 won't fall into ignorant ownership, and it keeps the buy-in price low, especially on the '75-'87 models.
I don't think a rusty Blazer or a purple Saturn are anything special. Frankly, Saturns are junk, and GM is my least favorite manufacturer of reliable transportation.
Al A., '84 245GLT, advanced entropy labrat
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re. "It improves the likelihood that a good 240 won't fall into ignorant ownership"
Occasionally I see a Volvo being driven without regard to safety - usualy tailgating and quick lane changes without signaling are the offenses. It's always a newer version, apparently driven by someone who wanted the status of owning a Volvo. They don't yet have the understanding that they need to help create its safety and longevity.
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On that note: My friend's brother had a '78 245 given to him by someone moving away. He drove it until it broke down, then called the wrecker to take it away. All it needed was some TLC. He didn't even ask me if I wanted anything from it before it was gone and I'm always talking about how much I love my 245. That's what I call "ignorant ownership".
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Anyone who makes a serious degrogatory about another's car, house, family, ect, is rude and uncivilized.
When such occurs, whatever I might say in reply, that person is re-classified in my mental acquintance file. They may be just a great person otherwise, but that snotty comment is on the cover of their dossier.
Future encounters are flavored by that classification.
Regards,
Bob
>:)
PS Never have a mud-slinging fight with a pig. You will get dirty and the pig has all the fun. (Thanks to Dharma of Dharma & Greg).
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Agreed. I'll take some good natured joking, and give it right back, but if someone makes a serious negative comment, thats not ok.
I once met a girl who, within about 5 minutes of meeting me, sneered at my Volvo and my music. I dont care to make the effort to get to know her, I dont think she could ever recover in my mind.
I know its not quite the same as having kids, but my Volvos are my babies, I take it personally.
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This is might make me sound like a real jerk, but what the hell.
I was once taking a girl out somewhere, I can't remember exactly where, but with in about 5 minutes she started making some seriously nasty remarks about my wagon.
Not one to put with crap from someone I hardly know, I quickly pulled the car over, and told her to get out.
"Enjoy the walk home," I said to her as she got out.
The funniest part? When she tried to shut the door when she got out of the car. She tried slamming it as hard as she could (I think she was hoping to break something...) but since the door is rather heavy anyway, (and since it's damn near impossible to do any damage to a 240 door by slamming it super hard), it didn't do much of any thing.
I'm really glad I never gave her my actual phone number (she just had a pager number).
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If you listen to the radio in Portland, OR, you may know me as 'Portland's Favorite Soul Brother!'
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I have to admit, I thought that was pretty funny, though I am assuming you didnt strand her anywhere too horrible.
I don't understand how people can be so rude. We dont make fun of every one elses piece of shit cars (well, not in front of them anyway).
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EXACTLY! i mean i have never said ne shit about my friends cars well not in front of them but u get the idea. and they have to pull something out of their butt and say something stupid like makin fun of someone elses car but in reality their car is the pos. like one of my friends drew some comics about my car and some really bad shit about it too. ahh if i had it i wouldve scanned it and showed u guys. i know my car is just a car but if its a car that u love like i do and most of us do then i think we should ya no care about them a little. but omg the kid that made those comics they were stuff about my car like drawing a pic of my car running into a semi, breaking down on the street, and crashing into a light pole. i mean stuff like that just pisses me off really bad. i mean how the hell can u be that stupid!
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You're letting them get to you.
That's the problem my friend.
If these people seriously give you nothing but shit about your car, they don't sound like very good friends to me.
Just blow them off. You know better. Let stupid people be stupid, it doesn't affect you in the long run.
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If you listen to the radio in Portland, OR, you may know me as 'Portland's Favorite Soul Brother!'
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I like my car, but do not get upset when people have a different opinion. Hell, I even curse out the car when it starts to act up. Life is to short to let a car bother me.
With that said and being a parent of a special needs child. The use of the word "retard" is what really sets me off!. I guess we all have a different view of life.
Mario
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'I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane' Waylon Jennings
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If only Volvo owners had skin as thick as their car's.
Let's see...
Are you alive?
Are you healthy?
Do you have enough to eat?
Do you have a place to sleep at night?
Are you free to express your thoughts?
Does everyone in the world love your car?
Somehow, one of these questions just doesn't stand up to the rest.
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Jim - '92 Red 245 191K, and sometimes an '85 245 275K
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There was a judge who made a comment in the newspaper about "Bloody Volvo Drivers" and in general Volvos. The folks whom openly expressed hate for Volvos came out of the closet. They are about as unpopular as Peugot was in America. Australia is becoming more like America, every day, whether Australia likes it, believes it, wantsit, or not. Everything is about image. Nobody would be caught dead in a Volvo, yet you will find 'em dead in Ford, Holden, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Toyota, et cetera. Aussies are quick to point out about the purported grandma and grandpa types, wearing hats, driving Volvos, but I know folks of all ages driving Volvos. I am a conservative, defensive, but aggressive, quick-on-the-draw, Volvo driver . . . (get the f_ck outta my way if you can't drive your sports cars or (sissy never get mud on my) 4WDs at the speed limit or keep pace with the flow of traffic). AND, the best part is seeing some punk in his made-to-be-faster car being out driven by this carburetted Volvo driven dude, and when he arrives at the traffic light, finally, seeing the young babe sitting beside me, while he is impressing his buddy or riding solo. I am bustin' that myth about the grandma and grandpa types, wearing hats, driving Volvos.
I work in a dealership where cars can cost as much as a SoCal House, all electronic . . . $16,000 for just a transmission, and lots and lots of electrical problems and other ridiculous, under-engineered things, right out of the box. I wonder what condition some of these cars will be in 24 years from now. Will anyone be able to repair them? Dealerships seldom if ever see older cars. Will the diagnostic computers and software even be available?
I am happy as a clam with my old carburetted Volvo. It is very easy to maintain. Not too expensive, either.
Had my rant.
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When people talk crap about my wagon, I just show them the odometer, and they shut up.
(Now up to 445K)
I then say "When whatever you drive makes it this far on one engine, let me know."
Better yet, don't pay them any mind. I think the fact that they drive something other then a Volvo is punishment enough on them.
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If you listen to the radio in Portland, OR, you may know me as 'Portland's Favorite Soul Brother!'
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I get that at work every single day. Idiots.
Cheers
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Yeap. I would have a hard time trading any of my bricking for some newer piece of plastic. I also don't like subarus. They look and feel cheap. I thik Mercedes is one of the only cars that can comapre with Volvo.
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1988 244 DL + Virgos, and Power Windows, 1983 244 Turbo +Intercooler, 1984 245TI
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I have to admit that my 240's don't impress on the first introduction.
But wonce you drive one and keep driving and driving- forever.
Then is when you are impressed. THey keep performing.
Flashy stuff wears off in a short time.
WIth the IPD suspensions the handle liks sports cars then I cn turn around
and use them like a truck, tow trailers, load em down. I evan pulled out a tree once with my 240 turbo, on purpose.
I can't figure out why yuppie and Volvo are connected, especially 240's.
Back in the 90's co-workers thought I was trying to be a Yuppie because I had Volvo's. These were people in the same job as me! They were the ones who golfed and spent money like yuppies. I did neither.
See, I liked the car not the image. Image, like the huge SUV's now. Now those people are what I call Yuppies!
Gary
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Volvos were the SUV of the '80s, every yuppie/socker mom had one, the image stuck. As for people who hate them, I want a bumper sticker that says;
"Just how much did you pay for that big ass piece of crap anyway?"
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Dave Shannon
Spring Valley, California
'67 1800s
'73 1800ES
'88-240
my pages
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I bought my 240 when I was 16 (two years ago). When I first brought it to school everyone was thought was "why?" Well slowly but surly, I took them for rides, even let them drive it and everyone fell in love with the car. It just goes to show you another example of the saying, "never judge a book by its cover."
Blake
P.S. The only people who first loved the car were parents of all kinds, So when I drove up to pick up their "little girls," and the saw the car, it seem to give me instant respect. Plus who can forget cops? "Did that Volvo just fly by us going 100? Naaaaaaa, maybe I should lay off the doughnuts..."
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"Larz" 1993 240 52K
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yeah see thats the EXACT same way as with me. my friends will say thats a pos but i will always give them rides and all that. but when their parents come out and they see my car they say that volvo is in very pristine cond. and u should see the look on my friends faces. they look like "wow, my parents are right, i am an idiot that know nothing about cars". suckers....i like the statement bout the volvo goin 100mph and the cops. hahaha that is very true...
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You shoulda seen me pass the 'vette yesterday.
Driver must have been not paying attention.
The highway exit ramp ended at a light w/2 left-turn lanes.
Everyone is always in the left lane, nobody in the right one.
So of course I used it, needing to turn left.
The light was red.
I passed about 8 vehicles, got to the front + stopped,
burgundy red 'vette was now on my left.
Light turned green, I hit the gas medium-hard,
IPD sway bars did their job as I went around the turn,
then I pulled over left in front of the 'vette
with a good 2-3 car lengths of room to spare behind me.
That felt good.
I did not expect to pass him -
I expected he'd pull ahead and I'd slip in behind him, but I did better than that!
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