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B230FT octane choice 700

Howdy, I have read the FAQ comments on the ECU retarded timing when a lower octane gas is used, and lower power.

I recently went from stictly 91 octane to 87 when it was the only gas available and could not tell the difference (ie. no knocking or loss of power)

I have however, stuck to using only sythetic oil (Mobil 1 10W 30) but given the cost of it and frequent topping up due to a leaky turbo, I wouldn't mind saving a few bucks.

Has anyone using 87 or even 89 octane gas for a while noticed any longer term effects?

Thanks.








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    B230FT octane choice 700

    My '91 yields about 2 mpg less on 87 versus 91, and gets better mpg on 92. YMMV. but for mine's, it matters.

    -- Kane ... who gets better numbers from Unocal and Chevron too.
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    I have the 16v DOHC, and I can notice a significant difference in power and smoothness in the engine depending on the octane level, so I do not put anything but the highest octane in it (91 or 92 R + M/2). Volvo recommends 91 or better R + M/2 octane and a minimum of 86. In the turbo models, they strongly recommend against anything under 91.
    --
    Manual tran 16v Wagon... Booyah!








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    B230FT octane choice 700

    When reading your owners manuals, be sure you are matching the correct "octane" numbers with the fueling system used in your country. In the US, we use (R+M)/2 to determine our "octane" rating, while the European countries use true Octane numbers (wich are slightly different from ours). This may be where some of the confusion lies. If you post what octane you use in your car, be sure to post your country and/or Octane system (true octane or R+M/2).

    FYI, it would be adviseable to check your knock sensor for proper operation every once in a while (every timing belt change or so). You can watch the sensor output by hooking up an oscilloscope to the knock sensor and gently hitting the engine block with a hammer. If you knock sensor is non-functional, you ignition system should automatically retard the ignition a huge amount (for safety), and you'll be wasting fuel and have poor acceleration.

    I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of a replacement knock sensor for my 780 (B280). The PRV-6 feels very underpowered. If you need a knock sensor for a 4-cylinder (B230), they show up from time to time on eBay (new and used). There were a few that ended last week for less than $5 each.

    God bless,
    Fitz Fitzgerald.
    --
    '87 Blue 240 Wagon, 255k miles.
    '88 Black 780, PRV-6, 148k miles.








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      B230FT octane choice 700

      The most common Euro fuel grades being 95 & 98 (RON), and for older vehicles some places will still have 99 with lead substitute. As I understand, the regular american 87 equals 92 on the Euro scale, and I do not recall seeing that fuel grade even being sold since the 80's.

      So what do I run? 93 just to be on the safe side. It's so damn cheap in the US anyways; Back in Europe, my Renault had a 72 liter tank and one fillup with 98 would run about 60 - 80$.








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    My '91 744T runs fine on 89 octane "plus", but the '94 944T pings on anything other than 93 octane "super". No mods to either car.
    --
    Mike W., six Volvos (four that run), Largo, FL








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    I've always used the lowest octane gas for my wagon (in sig). I've never noticed any pinging and I think - but am not sure - 87 is recommended in manual.
    --
    Norm Cook; Vancouver BC; 1989 745T 206,000KM








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    Mine runs fine on 87, which what it was designed to run on. There is much confussion about what octane ratings mean. The best explaination is from http://science.howstuffworks.com/gasoline3.htm . Check it out.
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    Paul NW Indiana '89 740 Turbo 110,000








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    B230FT octane choice 700

    My 87 runs fine on 89 at stock boost levels. The APC system that goes to 14.5 psi hates the 89 and will not let me go over 7.5 psi.







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