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I'm in the market for a new car. I have been considering leaving the Volvo fold after almost 20 years, because my 960 with 175k seems to be in the shop every other week now.
I've been looking at VW Golf's but recently saw a 2002 S80 at a local dealer. I have heard pretty bad things about these cars.
So maybe someone can tell me more about them. How are they on reliability, expense of repairs, quirkiness, etc.? What things do I especially need to look out for?
Please help!
THanks
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Definitely skip any six cylinder models and go with the 2.5T engine, which (I believe) debuted in 2004. There were still six cylinder models made in 2004 though, so if you find an 04, make sure you identify the engine before buying.
The 2.5T is also available in other models, including the S60 and V70, which have had pretty good reliability ratings. I like the S60 a lot, and the powertrain is the same, but the interior is smaller. The S60 is a nice car to drive.
The XC70 and XC90 also had the 2.5T powertrain, but obviously they would have the potential for greater maintenance expenses with all wheel drive.
The S80 is also highly rated in the safety department, if that's a factor.
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Chris Herbst
Scottsdale, AZ
2005 S80 30k
1992 940 150k
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Chris,
So I see you did jump into a 2005 S80 2.5T afterall. You were asking about them a couple months back. We bought the same year and engine. (I got the same advice from my local indy to go for the 2.5T vs the 2.9 6 cyl.) I see you found a low mileage car - nice catch. Our's has around 77,000 on it but looks and drives like new.
Learn all you can about the thing so I have someone to bug when I have a problem. So far the problems have been 2 burned out bulbs, although the second one had me scratching my head as it was intermittant.
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Hi Chris. I did end up getting an S80 with 29k a few months ago. Thanks for your input during that thread. After months of trying to decide what I wanted, I abandoned the Benz and Lexus shopping and decided on a white 2005-2006 S80 2.5T, miles under 40k, and preferably Volvo certified.
I found this car as an off-lease CPO car at Volvo of Tucson (Broadway Motors), under warranty until almost 2012. It was bought and serviced there. I looked at it online several times as it was in inventory for a while, but it was 90 miles away so it wasn't exactly easy to go and look at. I was bored one nice Saturday afternoon and decided to take advantage of the perfect day to drive down to Tucson to check it out. I had a very low price in mind, and, assuming it was as nice as it looked online, I decided that I had screwed around long enough looking for cars and if they met the price I had in mind, I'd buy it. Three hours later I was driving back home in it, my price was met and the car turned out to be even better than it looked (it hardly rains or snows here, so cars tend to stay new for years). The dealership experience was very pleasant, the salesperson was nice, and I didn't encounter any shady tactics employed at other car dealerships. I'll definitely go back there, possibly soon, as I may be replacing my northern car (940) in the near future.
You probably have a more feature-rich model; mine is a standard sunroof model with the sport package (T6 seats and Interceptor 17s), the interior is the lightest tan, I think they call it 'light taupe'. It doesn't have Nav, DSTC, or AWD. I'm adding homelink to it so I can stop fishing around for two remotes just to get into my gate and my garage. Other than that, I'm not too familiar with the inner workings of the car, although I have to say I'm really happy with the powertrain. If your car is still driving new at 70k+, that's an excellent sign. These models seem to have fewer problems than the 6 cyl models. Aside from that, I'm still wondering about a couple of quirks, such as what on earth is the black button thing on the headrest? I'm sure it's the manual somewhere, but that's not my first priority.
I pulled it out of the garage and shot a couple pictures of it a few weeks ago. I'll attach them. The interior shot was inside the garage so it's a little dim.
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Chris Herbst
Scottsdale, AZ
1992 940 150k
2005 S80 30k


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Mud,
The reliability of the S80 depends a lot on which engine it has. The 5 cyl is pretty good. The T6 tends to cook everything in the engine bay.
If you can afford to get newer, then do it. Volvo has always used the S80 as a test bed for new gizmos, and the gizmos always fail!
Make sure there are complete repair records, that is a must.
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My name is Klaus and I am a Volvoholic.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the six cylinder the same engine as in the 960 only turned sideways? These are one of the stronger features of this car (960). I'm not sure if the S80 I was looking at is the turbo version or just the normally aspirated I6 we all know and love.
Herzlichen Dank für Ihre Antwort!
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I was not aware that the S80 came with a normally aspirated 6 cyl. The only designation I have seen with the 6 was a T6, or twin turbo 6. The turbos created a large amount of engine bay heat, which tends to cook the electronics and the wires. The increased torque also played havoc with the tranny.
The design was probably OK for the Autobahn, but with the USA slow speeds and suburb driving, it needs extra cooling in the tight engine bay. Like the 960, cooling is paramount with these engines, along with Volvo brand coolant. There are just too many examples of holes in the block caused by internal corosion.
The 5 cyl LPT with 208bhp is the base model and has been fairly reliable.
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My name is Klaus and I am a Volvoholic.
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someone claiming to be R. Stuart
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Hi Klaus,
I've got an '02 S80 with the normally aspirated 2.9 engine. It just turned 100K. No engine issues yet. Always did oil & filter every 5k. Just switched to synthetic oil at 95k.
R. Stuart
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That is great! Make sure you flush the antifreeze and only use the expensive Volvo fluid.
My beef is with the T6, twin turbo engine. It generates too much heat!
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My name is Klaus and I am a Volvoholic.
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The one I am looking at is probably the base engine. It is indeed a normally aspirated 2.9 l inline six with ca. 197 HP. Haven't test driven it yet, but was told they don't have any service records for it but it has a fresh inspection.
Sounds kind of iffy to me. A test drive and a carfax check will tell me more....
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If you are dealing with a dealer, ask to see the inspection report. But don't believe anything, just ask if they will also supply a 1 year guarentee :) for parts and labor.
If not a dealer, I wouldn't trust the inspection at all. Not without backup service records. A carfax will not show much, some states will not give records to a private company. You will be better off having a good mechanic give it a once over.
Look for other cars for sale, and include the Boston suburbs.
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My name is Klaus and I am a Volvoholic.
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