i appreciate the info guys. my uncle is in the used car business, so he'll be checking out the auction situation over the next couple months. i figure the best i can hope for is to get one that hasn't been in an accident as far as body goes. the windows, *hopefully* won't fail for a little while, and i can pick up some anti sway bars in the off chance i run into problems like the guy in the c70 thread. i figure sometime in the near future, i'll go down to the volvo store in orlando and ask around, they sell certified pre owned. i guess i could ask the service manager which ones they have the most problems with.