i find it hilarious that you mention a 164 as a great car and fwd volvo as disappointing, i worked at a volvo dealer in 1975-1986, and i think the fwd volvos are by far the best car volvo has ever made. that aside, the one car volvo makes today that reminds me of all the problems with 164 volvos is the c70. this is by far the worst car they make at present. between outrageously expensive window repairs and poor turning radius , exptremely rough and noisy and heavy. all my customers that own them, hate them. i think any car they make today except the s80 and c70 are all very good cars.