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Bulb out relay driving me cazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 200

I replaced this relay allso left taillight,check all tail lights and front lights.None are out? the same problem,No problem with out lights,as soon as I turn on park/head lights.I get the bulb out light on the dash,what do I need to check next????? This is on a 91 240.








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    Bulb out relay driving me cazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 200

    At least your bulb out light is just on. Mine comes on when it feels like it(all bulbs good, and replaced in matching pairs), often when I go over bumps. It may blink with the turn signal, go out when I tap the brakes, go out when I use the power windows, and go out if I turn down the dash lights. I've pretty much given up on it, and intend to pull the bulb out of the warning light, unless anyone has any suggestions.








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    Bulb out relay driving me cazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 200

    Mine drove me nuts - turned out the tail light bulbs were different - by manufacturer only. I had changed the left. Put a matching bulb on the right and the problem was solved. Exactly the same symptoms you describe.

    Good luck!

    Dave








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    Bulb out relay driving me cazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 200

    Here are the basics of the Bulb Failure Sensing operation —

    The Bulb Failure Sensor tests for equal current on each side of these three pairs of lights (this includes 3 bulb brake lights):
    Note that there will be NO warning light if BOTH bulbs in a pair are out.

    • Tail lights
    • Brake lights (including rear window light)
    • Low headlight beams

    You can isolate the source of the BFS warning light to one of these groups with the car running—or with Key ON and small red D+ Alternator wire disconnected—as follows:
    1 – Step on Brake pedal. If no Warning light,
    2 – Turn Parking (tail) lights on. If still no Warning light,
    3 – Turn on Headlight Low beams. This should be the cause of the Warning light.

    If Warning light is ON when all these lights test OK, it could be the BF Sensor at fault. But more often it is simply due to a "mismatch" (bulb age, bulb socket condition), or corrosion at the ground wire for Left or Right light groups.

    Contrary to the conventional wisdom, I have seldom found it necessary to replace both bulbs in a pair to cure a False Warning problem. In my experience (16+ years and as many cars, counting friends), False BF Warnings are VERY rare. And I've seen many systems work fine with different bulb types and brands. IMO, socket contacts and the common ground connection are prime suspects, if all 3 light groups are working.

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    Bruce Young
    '93 940-NA (current), 240s (one V8), 140s, 122s, since '63.








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      Bulb out relay driving me cazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 200

      hi bruce,
      in your opinion, when the relay iself seems to be bad, is it ok to bypass the entire relay?
      thanks, harvey








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        In my case.... 200

        The failure mode for my bulb-out relay was that the bulbs failed to light at all. In my case, it was the headlight low beams.

        If you have an Ohm meter, check the resistance to ground on each of the low beam wires (light blue wires?? It was only a month ago and I have already forgotten the color) at the relay socket to see if they match. A poor headlight ground could be your problem, and bypassing the relay won't solve that.

        When mine failed, I did bypass the headlight circuit in the relay. I figure I can tell when a headlight burns out without a warning light to tell me.








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    Bulb out relay driving me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 200

    Volvo's are picky with the type of bulbs you use. Make sure the bulbs are brass based. The aluminum based bulbs always set off my bulb out light.








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      Yes - check the bulbs 200


      Yes - check the bulbs. They should be matched pairs left-right.

      The failure relay compares the current draw of left vs. right side of each circuit that it monitors. So any difference such as maker, age, type can trip the bulb failure warning relay (BFWR). Also any difference in "health" of the various contacts between bulb, bulb holder, lamp cluster and wire connector.

      Hopefully you'll find the culprit without tearing everything apart.

      Sorry. Its a lot of stuff to check. All to placate a piece of hardware that was supposed to make life easier for you. The sedans seem to have more failures in the rear lamp assembly - it's a flexible circuit "board" vs. the beefier stamped metal in the wagons.
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      Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns. Wifemobile '89 245 NA stock. 90 244 NA spare, runs.







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