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rough running engine 444-544

This may be lengthy-stay with me. Bought this project with a fresh overhauled engine-even balanced. Completed ALL the running gear, dis-assembled the bottom end of the engine and ALL clearances were excellent. P/O told me top end was rebuilt by professional mechanic-and all evidence indicates that. Installed twin HU-6's (rebuilt by Barongray)and engine started right up, but had a severe miss-ran a LITTLE better at higher RPM's. Installed different distributer (from David Zipkin), new points, condenser, rotor,dist. cap, plugs, wires, coil. Checked valve adjustments,point gap. Thought perhaps vacumn leak, but couldn't find one. Rebuilt a Weber 2 bbl and installed that--same problem. Checked compression-150psi on all 4 cylinders. have checked firing order and proper placement of wires in the dist. cap. I checked that all the valves are opening and closing- Looks good. I put a timing light on each plug wire, and they are all firing. I'll try to answer any questions.
I am at my wits end--any suggestions appreciated.








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    I want to thank everone for their input on this problem. Altho I haven't solved the problem, I have gained a few ideas of what to look for. I will continue, and when the problem is solved I will post a new message. Thanks again. Skeet








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    I agree with Suppo - distributor is just 180 out.








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    Is the miss happening on only one cylinder? If it is the plugs should give you a clue as to which cylinder has a problem.

    Does the car have fresh gas? Did water get in the tank, possibly?

    What's the timing set at?

    B16, B18...?

    Fuel pump working ok?








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      rough running engine 444-544

      Hello,


      I'm a bit young for this model (I am a student). But you really should run it for a while and fuel it at a station before trying to diagnose faults.


      Goatman








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      rough running engine 444-544

      B18 engine. All cylinders firing-plugs all look similiar-fresh gas (out of a plastic container).To me, I still think vacumn problem, but can't find one. Thanks for the reply.








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        rough running engine 444-544

        Was the intake manifold resurfaced?








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          No, the intake was not resurfaced. I thank you for this question-it's something I had not thought of. I'll have the carb rebuilt in a few days, and if that does'nt help, I will have the intake resurfaced. Thanks for your input.








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            If you do have the manifold resurfaced, don't forget to grind the locating rings (the ones that insert between the head and intake manifold) a like amount.








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            After reading and pondering for 'lo these many weeks, I am of the Opinion (notice the capital "O") that your problems are distributor oriented.

            I say this as you have noted previously that your SU's were rebuilt and tested by someone who we all trusted to do things correctly.

            I am obliged to ask "what model" distributor you have chosen to bolt into place. This question is based upon reference to vacuum - which the stock PV544 equipped with the Bosch 003 or 009 mechanical advance, had no need for.

            If you have "upgraded" to a vacuum advance (or worse, retard) distributor you may have problems associated with the new and improved distributor working correctly - especially as the vacuum must come from a specific nipple on the rear HS6 carb body as fitted to the later model B18/20 engines equipped with the later model distributors.

            A couple other options for error. 1) Distributor shaft inserted 180 degrees out. 2) Distributor shaft lobe worn. 3) Timing gear (thanks to the cut of the gears) installed one tooth off. 4) Plug wires/Coil wire shorting out.

            Maybe I am odd for defending the venerable SU HS6, but in five years I have not had one bit of trouble with my set.








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              Did you check the way the plug wires are oriented the Volvo dist rotates counter clockwise. Dick








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                Yes,wires are correct for cc rotation.
                I do have 'some' reservations concerning the Distributer. I has a vacumn advance, and the one that came with the car did not. I have tried it with the vacumn line on and off-no difference.
                Can someone tell me what the valve lift should be with the OEM camshaft? Skeet








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                  Not sure what the lift is, but from dealing with several flat lobes over the years, they'll only cause noticeable running issues when they are *really* flat. Something you won't need a measurement to spot - just pull the valve cover, unplug the coil, and crank it over for a little bit and watch each valve as it goes up and down, if there's a flat lobe it will really stand out.

                  And generally, until the lobe is all the way flat, it will still run perfectly well at idle, and low throttle, enoug air can sneak in past the barely opened valve to halde that amount of load, it's just at higher RPM and with the throttle open that the valve is a major bottleneck and it manifests itself as a miss.


                  --
                  '63 PV544 rat rod, '93 Classic #1141 245 (now w/16V turbo)







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