Volvo RWD 444-544 Forum

INDEX FOR 10/2025(CURRENT) INDEX FOR 9/2010 444-544 INDEX

[<<]  [>>]


THREADED THREADED EXPANDED FLAT PRINT ALL
MESSAGES IN THIS THREAD




  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Ignition 444-544 1964

posted by  Bob3100 on  Wed Oct 29 11:39 CST 2014
Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] [RELATED]

The vehicle periodically stops running, but will restart after sitting a while.
The coil is original and it has a crane electronic ignition that is about 15 years old.

Any thoughts on this issue and how to trouble shoot it would be appreciated.

Also I am interested in understanding the wiring for a new coil and the hook up of a push to start switch. I understand that breaking into the armored cable is part of the deal.

Thanks,
Bob







  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Ignition 444-544 1964

    posted by  Zoneman on  Wed Oct 29 13:06 CST 2014
    Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
    last visit: Thu May 22 14:26 CST 2014
    [RELATED]

    Does the Crane ignition do away with the points?
    Either way, it sounds like the Crane ignition is overheating.
    The 1st thing I would do is check the voltage feeding the ignition. If it is greater than about 14.2volts at a normal cruising RPM (2500 to 3000) you will have found the probable cause. If you still have the electro-mechanical voltage regulator you may be able to adjust it. If you have converted to a modern self regulated alternator then you will probably have to add a drop resistor (ballast resistor)to the power lead to the Crane ignition. Hope this helps!!

    Zoneman








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      Ignition 444-544 1964

      posted by  Phil S. on  Wed Oct 29 14:38 CST 2014
      Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
      last visit: Fri Oct 24 13:18 CST 2014
      [RELATED]

      A Crane failure is certainly not impossible, but I have put hundreds of thousands of miles on that ignition system in our own Amazon, various customer cars including race cars, and I've had a zero failure rate. They are not particularly sensitive to voltage, and the stock coil is internally ballasted.

      I think a coil failure is much more likely...








      •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

        Ignition 444-544 1964

        posted by  Zoneman on  Wed Oct 29 16:15 CST 2014
        Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
        last visit: Thu May 22 14:26 CST 2014
        [RELATED]

        Hi Phil,

        I have to ask how a resistor and or a transformer (coil) can heal itself by cooling off?? My personal and professional experience leans toward solid state parts (transistors (switching), chips, etc. showing this type of slow death because of overheating caused by over voltage and or high ambient heat(the mortal enemy of solid state devices.) I also have dealt with Crane products of the ignition variety and have found them no less susceptible to heat that is produced by ANY source, whether over voltage, high current draw,or simply ambient heat after a prolonged period (15 years).
        Good to hear from you again!! As always, a pleasure!!

        ZONEMAN








        •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

          Ignition 444-544 1964

          posted by  votx on  Wed Oct 29 17:40 CST 2014
          Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
          last visit: Thu Oct 23 18:48 CST 2014
          [RELATED]

          Old coils seem to fail when they get hot. Just the nature of the beast.








          •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

            Ignition 444-544 1964

            posted by  Zoneman on  Wed Oct 29 18:21 CST 2014
            Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
            last visit: Thu May 22 14:26 CST 2014
            [RELATED]

            My fellow enthusiast, I do agree that old coils die from old age, but I have never had one that healed itself!! They LIVE or they DIE. As an experienced driver I'm quite sure that you realize that a transformer (coil) breaks down, but once it croaks, that's IT!!! It doesn't miraculously recover until it's next "stroke". Honestly, that would be a wonderful way to have that happen, but in the real world different things occur and have to be dealt with.

            I hope it all works out for you and I am completely incorrect, but my circle and drag racing experience says otherwise.

            Good luck!!

            ZONEMAN







<< < > >>



©Jarrod Stenberg 1997-2022. All material except where indicated.


All participants agree to these terms.

Brickboard.com is not affiliated with nor sponsored by AB Volvo, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Cars of North America, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. Brickboard.com is a Volvo owner/enthusiast site, similar to a club, and does not intend to pose as an official Volvo site. The official Volvo site can be found here.